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    This is the wrong way to go about it...............

    Texas Pro-Gun Crusaders Take Extreme Open Carry Approach

    I'm as pro-gun / rights as you can get, but if I was in a restaurant and these clowns walked in, I would be concerned.

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    Agreed! There is a huge difference in "open carry" and openly carrying an "assault-style" rifle. I whole heartedly support the 2nd Amendment, and our right to bear arms. I do not subscribe to the idiocy of calling a particular rifle "assault" rifle b/c a spoon can be used to assault. Assault is an act, not a tool! But, what these people don't understand is that perception is reality whether it is the truth or not. The truth is they are law abiding citizens exercising their right to bear arms. Perception, however, is that they are lunatics who are only out to cause a stir, which does more harm than good for the pro-gun cause.

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    I suggest that the following sign be posted at the entrance to all public places: CONCEALED FIREARMS ONLY.

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    It shouldn't even have to be posted at all. The 2nd should suffice, and ppl should know time and place. A restaurant isn't the the the place to openly carry a rifle to eat.

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    Not one of the long guns shown in this video was an assault rifle. Most were semi-automatic rifles with a few bolt action rifles thrown in the mix. That's the first error.

    The arresting officer broke the law (I saw this video a while back), plain and simple. I had thought I read somewhere where the victim, the man in the video, won a monetary judgement against the municipality. Error number two.

    The reporter is racist. I have been among many people carrying open and concealed and there were some blacks there as well as females, Asians, and whites. I don't recall anyone trying to play the racist, sex, or nationality card during those events. Error number three.

    And then the "Mom's" woman is dead wrong. She lists a few things, one of which is no background checks. Has anyone here ever purchased a firearm from an FFL and skipped the background check, accept where it is legal because the buyer has a carry permit? Error number four.

    As for the folks who chose to do this in Texas, I say do as they see fit in their state. It is their state and sometimes it takes a few "extreme" measures (legal of course) to get things addressed. I have been among over 1,000 people at one rally who were all open carrying firearms of all sorts, going into our state legislators' offices, and listening to speeches. No problems resulted from this event. But then, this IS Virginia.

    As for my person take on all of this. I find carrying a long gun around like this to be cumbersome and just gets in the way. I do open carry my handgun(s) frequently and never have any problems with businesses, customers, the general public, or police. Like I said, Virginia. It's a no brainer here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GCBHM View Post
    It shouldn't even have to be posted at all. The 2nd should suffice, and ppl should know time and place. A restaurant isn't the the the place to openly carry a rifle to eat.
    Um, the CONCEALED FIREARMS ONLY sign has another, much deeper meaning: "Hey, idiot-boy robber, you'll never know who is armed in here."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    I suggest that the following sign be posted at the entrance to all public places: CONCEALED FIREARMS ONLY.
    I would be dead set against this. I have open carried into many restaurants, by myself, with a few others, and in a large group, and have never had any issues of any kind whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    Um, the CONCEALED FIREARMS ONLY sign has another, much deeper meaning: "Hey, idiot-boy robber, you'll never know who is armed in here."
    Okay, an ulterior motive. I missed that. How about just, "Legally Carried Guns Welcome"? Of course, that almost looks like the contradiction sign of, "No Guns Allowed".

    You got me... I'll go back in my hole now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    Um, the CONCEALED FIREARMS ONLY sign has another, much deeper meaning: "Hey, idiot-boy robber, you'll never know who is armed in here."
    There would be no need for any kind of sign if it were common knowledge that citizens carry guns wherever they want via the 2nd Amendment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoy View Post
    Not one of the long guns shown in this video was an assault rifle. Most were semi-automatic rifles with a few bolt action rifles thrown in the mix. That's the first error.

    The arresting officer broke the law (I saw this video a while back), plain and simple. I had thought I read somewhere where the victim, the man in the video, won a monetary judgement against the municipality. Error number two.

    The reporter is racist. I have been among many people carrying open and concealed and there were some blacks there as well as females, Asians, and whites. I don't recall anyone trying to play the racist, sex, or nationality card during those events. Error number three.

    And then the "Mom's" woman is dead wrong. She lists a few things, one of which is no background checks. Has anyone here ever purchased a firearm from an FFL and skipped the background check, accept where it is legal because the buyer has a carry permit? Error number four.

    As for the folks who chose to do this in Texas, I say do as they see fit in their state. It is their state and sometimes it takes a few "extreme" measures (legal of course) to get things addressed. I have been among over 1,000 people at one rally who were all open carrying firearms of all sorts, going into our state legislators' offices, and listening to speeches. No problems resulted from this event. But then, this IS Virginia.

    As for my person take on all of this. I find carrying a long gun around like this to be cumbersome and just gets in the way. I do open carry my handgun(s) frequently and never have any problems with businesses, customers, the general public, or police. Like I said, Virginia. It's a no brainer here.
    I personally have no problem with demonstrations. I really don't care if someone carries their rifle around, as long as they are not doing anything threatening. What I don't like is a bunch of crazy looking good ol'boys walking around, going to public places carrying rifles, looking like trash. It makes the rest of us look stupid to say the least. Besides that, there is just no sense carrying any rifle around town. If you want to open carry, then look like you have some sense about you!

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    If you carry a gun on your back you may think you are in control of the gun, but you are not in control of the idiot in line behind you.
    Is it legal? Yes
    Is it safe????????????

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    Good point. I think the whole thing is rather stupid. Again, there is no more reason to carry a rifle openly in town than it is to haul around a fishing rod. It just doesn't make any sense. I understand this group is trying to make a point that if they can carry rifles openly why can't they open carry pistols, but come on. Really? Yeah, sometimes you need someone to take a step, even to an extreme, to make a point, but I just do not see this as helpful. Not with the fight on-going, and liberals begging for a reason to ban guns. The problem isn't that they can't carry concealed, or that it is hard for them to get a CC permit. In Alabama, you can open carry, but if you don't have a license to carry, you can't open carry in your car. Does that make any sense? NO! But there is a very easy solution. GET A LICENSE TO CARRY!!! It is very easy to do in Alabama.

    Until all this is settled that the 2nd Amendment is your open carry/conceal carry license, be smart about it. Don't do anything stupid to make the rest of us look like hick, cowboy outlaws begging for attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GCBHM View Post
    Good point. I think the whole thing is rather stupid. Again, there is no more reason to carry a rifle openly in town than it is to haul around a fishing rod. It just doesn't make any sense. I understand this group is trying to make a point that if they can carry rifles openly why can't they open carry pistols, but come on. Really? Yeah, sometimes you need someone to take a step, even to an extreme, to make a point, but I just do not see this as helpful. Not with the fight on-going, and liberals begging for a reason to ban guns. The problem isn't that they can't carry concealed, or that it is hard for them to get a CC permit. In Alabama, you can open carry, but if you don't have a license to carry, you can't open carry in your car. Does that make any sense? NO! But there is a very easy solution. GET A LICENSE TO CARRY!!! It is very easy to do in Alabama.

    Until all this is settled that the 2nd Amendment is your open carry/conceal carry license, be smart about it. Don't do anything stupid to make the rest of us look like hick, cowboy outlaws begging for attention.
    Don't you mean inner city young wannabe gangsta toughs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoy View Post
    Don't you mean inner city young wannabe gangsta toughs?
    LOL!!! Perhaps!

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    Unless your walking into a hunting lodge, carrying a long-gun into an establishment is a little over the top for me. Sorry.

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    So-called "Open Carry" advocates who organize and participate in these demonstrations consist of a number of idiots being led by a handful of really intelligent anti-gun activists.

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    I agree

    These open carry groups are hurting us CHL carriers and the shooting sport as a whole.

    If I saw someone coming into a store / resturant with a AR 15 - I quietly draw my own gun - keep it under the table, but be very likely to shoot one of the idoits if he made a wrong move.

    Why? Because there is no earthly reason for a person to carry a AR into a store / resturant except to do harm.

    If I (a CHL carrier) don't like it - just image what a person the doesn't like guns is feeling.

    These are idiots.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dondavis3 View Post
    I agree

    These open carry groups are hurting us CHL carriers and the shooting sport as a whole.

    If I saw someone coming into a store / resturant with a AR 15 - I quietly draw my own gun - keep it under the table, but be very likely to shoot one of the idoits if he made a wrong move.

    Why? Because there is no earthly reason for a person to carry a AR into a store / resturant except to do harm.

    If I (a CHL carrier) don't like it - just image what a person the doesn't like guns is feeling.

    These are idiots.

    Drawing your concealed handgun seems to be an overly aggressive response.
    The only issue with this particular group would be their training or lack of training creating an unsafe situation.
    Firearms Training is for open or concealed carry. Thank you

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    I think it just gives the anti-gun crowd something to talk about so I don't agree with it. The less they can bring up the less momentum they can generate in trying to take our rights away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petej View Post
    I think it just gives the anti-gun crowd something to talk about so I don't agree with it. The less they can bring up the less momentum they can generate in trying to take our rights away.
    Yes.

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