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      Thank you for the info, Kind Sir.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Holly View Post
      Thank you for the info, Kind Sir.
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      Quote Originally Posted by berettatoter View Post
      In Indiana, yes, as long as you have a carry permit. You cannot carry in Indiana, CC or OC without a permit.
      At least it is easy to get a permit in IN.

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      Open carry is the default (normal, standard) mode of carrying a firearm in Virginia. We have no laws addressing open carry which makes this so. And Virginia is probably the most gun-lenient and gun-friendly state in the South so openly carrying your sidearm is a non-issue and obviously no permit is required to OC at one's pleasure.

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      Quote Originally Posted by SigP229R View Post
      It is legal but, not for 18 yr.olds must be 21 in my state to own a handgun.
      Not accurate. There is no law in NC preventing an 18 year old from receiving a handgun as a gift or buying from a private party. Federal law prevents under 21 YO from buying from a Dealer, not a private party. If you read the Statute for the Pistol Purchase Permit, you will see there is no age mentioned. Some Sheriffs do say you need to be 21 for them to issue a permit, but if it is for a private sale or a gift they will give a permit anyway since you can't legal transfer ownership of a pistol in NC without a Purchase Permit.
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      Quote Originally Posted by clockworkjon View Post
      Hopefully this will be changing very soon!
      At the rate police depts. and cities are facing lawsuits for making those charges and the new regulations.I'd say the changes are happening now.Slowly,but they are coming around.

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      Quote Originally Posted by TedDeBearFrmHell View Post
      open carry is legal in oregon, i open carry 90% of the time.... i have read that open carry gives away tactical advantage, and this may be true.... but it is also a deterrent.... anyone who would attack a person who is obviously armed and by extension willing to defend themselves is going to attack you anyway.... why conceal and therefore look like a better victim?

      "when the jackals feast on gazelles, its good to be a lion"
      i agree that 9 times out of 10 it will be more of a deterrent than a snatch and grab. I keep hearing tactical advantage. but if you reach and pull your shirt up and the guy is already jumpy and on adrenaline you are liable to get shot for making a move

      Quote Originally Posted by zhurdan View Post
      Possibly, but it lets them plan their attack and I don't know about you, but I don't have eyes in the back of my head. Concealing doesn't make you look like less of a victim but open carry kinda makes you look like an easy place to pick up a free gun. Opinions differ, no offense intended.
      Ummm, There is a very slight risk I won't say it would never happen.

      Quote Originally Posted by TedDeBearFrmHell View Post
      btw i wonder what the statistics are ..... how many open carry practitioners are attacked each year.... i would venture to guess it is less than the number of cc practitioners attacked.
      I hear and read about more CC getting "attacked". of course with the small number of open carry practioners I can see why you would hear more. I think if I recall correctly I have only heard of one guy having his gun taken from him and that was on youtube.

      Quote Originally Posted by TedDeBearFrmHell View Post
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      i understand your point, but the average stick up guy is gonna wait till there is less danger to himself..... the average crack head, is gonna do it anyway... so oc or cc we just need to keep an eye out for the guy who just doesnt give a sh!t ... i will admit that i currently live in a very low crime area in southern oregon and oc is pretty common .... and when i lived in philly i cc'd most of the time, wasnt worth the police hassle.
      How many news stories have we seen were a gas station clerk takes a broom handle or something and hits the guy with a gun once in the head and the guy runs. or the clerk pulls his arm and punches him. The very vast majority of crooks are looking for a quick and easy way to get money. They don't wanna deal with someone who will fight back and them risking getting caught by the cops on top of it. Not saying they all are like that but alot of them are too lazy to fight back.

      Quote Originally Posted by Peaches View Post
      I agree with zhurdan. I think people look and act like a victim and therefore become one. If you are aware of your environment and the people around you then you are less likely to be a victim then open carrying. I conceal carry everywhere (yes, I have my concealed carry permit) and would never open carry because I don't want to call more attention to myself. Just my opinion.
      You might have people look at you weird. Well I guess that is if you are somewhere that people carry concealed. Even with open carry you should be aware of what is around you. I would venture to say most people who open carry are more observant due ot the fact they do run a slight risk of a gun snatch or attack.

      Quote Originally Posted by bruce333 View Post
      Not accurate. There is no law in NC preventing an 18 year old from receiving a handgun as a gift or buying from a private party. Federal law prevents under 21 YO from buying from a Dealer, not a private party. If you read the Statute for the Pistol Purchase Permit, you will see there is no age mentioned. Some Sheriffs do say you need to be 21 for them to issue a permit, but if it is for a private sale or a gift they will give a permit anyway since you can't legal transfer ownership of a pistol in NC without a Purchase Permit.
      I have heard different so I don't know. I know it i sok for a rifle. but I am not quite sure about the pistol deal.

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      Open carry is legal in Kansas but some towns would not allow it. In fact the AG served notice on the City of Wichita that state law overrides local law and Wichita caved in. They announced the change on the evening news report-open carry is now legal in Wichita. If any other town in Kansas prohibits open carry they will get a special visit from the AG. Gosh I like living in Kansas.

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      OC will be good to go on Nov. 1, 2012 in Oklahoma. Most of the guys and gals I know will continue to CC, with OC being an option. After the new law goes into effect, it certainly will be nice to be less concerned about "brandishing" if your CC weapon is inadvertently displayed.

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      I have a PA license to carry a firearm. It does NOT specify CC or OC but I prefer CC. A lot of the locals are narrow minded to close minded about people carring firearms (pistols) except for target shooting. I don't want the hassle of the police, etc stopping me for something I'm doing legally.

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      In Indiana? Yes, as long as you have a permit. Ours does not specify concealed.

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      Legal in PA. By which I mean there is no law saying you can't but no law saying you can. Around Philly I've heard it is VERY looked down upon. As is having a knife on your person without needing it for your job. Here in PGH PA you can open carry and have pocket knives lol.

      You only need the permit to conceal. You can open carry without the ccw. But once your shirt manages to get over that gun (or you enter your vehicle) your now conceal carrying, so getting the permit is always a good idea.

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      Quote Originally Posted by BearTaylor View Post
      Open carry is legal in Kansas but some towns would not allow it. In fact the AG served notice on the City of Wichita that state law overrides local law and Wichita caved in. They announced the change on the evening news report-open carry is now legal in Wichita. If any other town in Kansas prohibits open carry they will get a special visit from the AG. Gosh I like living in Kansas.
      They better get in touch with Overland Park.

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      Open Carry is Legal in North Carolina and i Open Carry whenever i go out. We are one of the best states for Open Carry besides Virginia and Michigan.

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      Is open carry permitted in your State?

      It is not expressly against the law here in NY. And I have challenged many to show me where and how it is.

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      Open carry is allowed in Wisconsin, without permit......I never do, unfortunately.....I don't feel like being put down on all fours, by LE........2 different citizens in my area have been put down at gunpoint, while mowing their lawn, with a sidearm. Apparently, it doesn't matter too much whether it's legal or illegal, you'll get the same result.......since CCW passed in Nov. 2011, things have actually calmed down a bit.........wish I could open carry under certain circumstances, but it's just not worth the hassle......it's like LE is saying, if you're going to carry, we don't want to know about it...but, if you were to get pulled over, and you don't tell them that you are armed, you'll probably get screamed at for NOT telling them.......the stuff that comes out of the backs of bulls....

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      Quote Originally Posted by berettabone View Post
      Open carry is allowed in Wisconsin, without permit......I never do, unfortunately.....I don't feel like being put down on all fours, by LE........2 different citizens in my area have been put down at gunpoint, while mowing their lawn, with a sidearm. Apparently, it doesn't matter too much whether it's legal or illegal, you'll get the same result.......since CCW passed in Nov. 2011, things have actually calmed down a bit.........wish I could open carry under certain circumstances, but it's just not worth the hassle......it's like LE is saying, if you're going to carry, we don't want to know about it...but, if you were to get pulled over, and you don't tell them that you are armed, you'll probably get screamed at for NOT telling them.......the stuff that comes out of the backs of bulls....
      But that is all illegal and against the Constitution, so in court, you will win all of those cases. But you do have to know the law and remain calm and consistent through the police encounter. If you can not do these things, you may end up in the situation of those previously described...

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      Quote Originally Posted by berettabone View Post
      Open carry is allowed in Wisconsin, without permit......I never do, unfortunately.....I don't feel like being put down on all fours, by LE........2 different citizens in my area have been put down at gunpoint, while mowing their lawn, with a sidearm. Apparently, it doesn't matter too much whether it's legal or illegal, you'll get the same result.......since CCW passed in Nov. 2011, things have actually calmed down a bit.........wish I could open carry under certain circumstances, but it's just not worth the hassle......it's like LE is saying, if you're going to carry, we don't want to know about it...but, if you were to get pulled over, and you don't tell them that you are armed, you'll probably get screamed at for NOT telling them.......the stuff that comes out of the backs of bulls....
      That, sir, is a truly sad state of affairs. And it is a world apart what we have here in Virginia. Restaurants (yes, even those which serve alcohol for consumption on the premises), gas stations, banks, police stations... all are fair game for the open carrier. There are very few places where carry, open or concealed, is restricted in my state and when the local or state police see your sidearm, they pay you very little mind. And this is how it should be.

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      It IS a sad state of affairs........I am sure, that in some rural areas, like up north, it's not a big deal, but that's hunting country.......If I would try that here, I would at the least, get someone freaking out, and calling the police...I am sure, that here, if I knew LE or they knew me, it might turnout a bit different, but we have too many Libs and soccer moms freaking out, when the garbage is picked up late. All I can do, is continue waiting for the carnage that was supposed to happen when they passed CCW, and hope that people will eventually come around.
      Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoy View Post
      That, sir, is a truly sad state of affairs. And it is a world apart what we have here in Virginia. Restaurants (yes, even those which serve alcohol for consumption on the premises), gas stations, banks, police stations... all are fair game for the open carrier. There are very few places where carry, open or concealed, is restricted in my state and when the local or state police see your sidearm, they pay you very little mind. And this is how it should be.

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      Of course it is, but unless you have a lot of cash on hand for an attorney, your stuck.....one of the guys mowing his lawn sued, and got $6500....doesn't even pay for the lawyer...they like to keep your firearm too, and make you fight to get it back.
      Quote Originally Posted by Steveboos View Post
      But that is all illegal and against the Constitution, so in court, you will win all of those cases. But you do have to know the law and remain calm and consistent through the police encounter. If you can not do these things, you may end up in the situation of those previously described...

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