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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin View Post
    Hello everyone I am new on here and just wanted to get some help for your experiences.

    I am a little timid when it comes to “Open Carrying” in NC. But I want to be an avid OC’er and I would like to have the tools to protect my right’s to do so.
    I understand that while people OC & CC they have carried some informational cards.
    I have also heard of good and bad experiences with the LEO’s.
    My hope is to use a “card” to keep me calm and keep them respecting my rights.

    So here is what I need:
    What should I put on a information card to let LEO’s and other "concerned" people know that I know my rights and if necessary educate them on the law as well?

    On the card I would put:
    Side One – Rights
    Side Two – Education

    Ok Let me know what I should place on it…..
    Specifically Greensboro and Raleigh area

    Please Help!!
    May I suggestion that you visit the following link for a wealth of information on this topic available through your fellow North Carolinians who will go out of their way to help you I'm sure.

    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/fo...North-Carolina

    Good luck to you.

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    I gotta laugh a little...

    Your location is shown as: "Suburb of Manassas, VA."
    In the geography I remember, that could be Washington, DC.

    Heavens to Murgatroyd! Are you practicing entrapment for DC's MPD?




    (I'm so old that, when I was a kid, Manassas didn't have suburbs. It was a very small town, a suburb itself.)

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    I guess he missed the original post.......North Carolina, not Virginia....I don't think that austin is concerned with Virginia......( I'm old enough to remember, and I used to listen to Steven Stills Manassas...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    I gotta laugh a little...

    Your location is shown as: "Suburb of Manassas, VA."
    In the geography I remember, that could be Washington, DC.

    Heavens to Murgatroyd! Are you practicing entrapment for DC's MPD?




    (I'm so old that, when I was a kid, Manassas didn't have suburbs. It was a very small town, a suburb itself.)
    I like your humor.

    No, I am in the western part of Prince William County. It's just that most people who remember their grade school history studies probably also remember Manassas so I use that as a point of reference. As for DC, I avoid that cesspool like the plague. I use to love to go to DC when I was in high school (I then lived in Falls Church) because you could drink or buy to go at 18. We had a ball.

    I'd bet you and I are around the same age. I'll give you a hint for mine. I was a senior in high school when JFK was assassinated.

    As for our friend from Wisconsin, I hope he doesn't think I mean him any ill will. It's just that I have seen so many times on the various gun websites that people do seem to overlook how things really are in other states. And I do conceal my arm at those times when I deem it to be in my best interests. But I do have good reason to OC in my opinion. I have osteoarthritis in both knees so I can no longer run or fight as I was once able to do. Therefore, my hope is that anyone looking to do me evil will think twice when they see my little friend. This also means that when OC'ing, one has to be even more alert and aware of their surroundings than when they are CC'ing.

    Appreciated the humor and yes, I can certainly laugh at myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by berettabone View Post
    I guess he missed the original post.......North Carolina, not Virginia....I don't think that austin is concerned with Virginia......( I'm old enough to remember, and I used to listen to Steven Stills Manassas...)
    No, I saw the OP was from North Carolina, a sister state to us. I travel through there several times a year.

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    No ill will taken......you just have to remember and re-read austin's original post...........key words...." a little timid", " use a card, to keep me calm", " in the process of getting my CCW", " I am not worried about someone taking my really nice Kimber 1911"......and you think that it's a good idea for HIM to carry openly? What you do, for whatever reason, is your business.....I think that you have a few years on him, and more experience with firearms in general........I never stated that I think that open carry is totally wrong......I just don't think that it's a very good idea for him, at this time......personally, I don't want to run or fight either...that's why I DON"T open carry........I like the element of suprise, and I don't want the attention that open carry brings.......I also think that there is no difference in "awareness" whether you're carrying the firearm on the outside or the inside....carrying a firearm is a big responsibility, and you'd better be paying attention, no matter how the manner of carry...plus, you have no idea where he lives, exactly, so to play it safe, he needs to know what it's like out there. He needs to know, that, maybe in his town or city, it won't be a problem, but 50 miles away, it might be a real problem. No one really knows, unless they know their "area" real well.......Including my own state, even though it's legal, I can name tons of states and tons of cities where open carry is a real bad idea, ie Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois, Michigan, Indiana, Nevada, California, cities....Madison, Milwaukee, Chicago, Detroit, Gary, Las Vegas, San Diego...get what I mean? Any of these states, and cities, and there are more, are big problems for open carry. This is why they passed conceal carry laws...to eliminate the hassle, and fear, of open carry, and help protect the right of an individual to protect themselves. I applaud him for asking questions and seemingly, going about getting info in the right way....I just do not think he's ready for the open carry scenario yet, and may never be......................Virginia, beautiful state...I get jealous of the weather....would love to check it out sometime...love to fish, love to hike with the wife, although the feet and ankles are getting a little land worn, and the knees...ah, who are we kidding, it's hell getting old................

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoy View Post
    ...I'd bet you and I are around the same age...
    I think that you'd lose the bet.
    I was born in January, 1938.

    My father worked for the OPS and OPA as a consultant, during and just after WW2.
    I used to commute to DC with him, every so often. I was pretty familiar with Virginia-across-the-Potomac, and all the way to the Shenandoah Valley, back then.
    Suburban Maryland, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    I think that you'd lose the bet.
    I was born in January, 1938.

    My father worked for the OPS and OPA as a consultant, during and just after WW2.
    I used to commute to DC with him, every so often. I was pretty familiar with Virginia-across-the-Potomac, and all the way to the Shenandoah Valley, back then.
    Suburban Maryland, too.
    HOLY CRAP!!! I know hills younger than you!!! hehe

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    Ya gotta remember, guys, that I bear the wisdom of the ages.
    So listen well you should, young Jedi...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    I think that you'd lose the bet.
    I was born in January, 1938.

    My father worked for the OPS and OPA as a consultant, during and just after WW2.
    I used to commute to DC with him, every so often. I was pretty familiar with Virginia-across-the-Potomac, and all the way to the Shenandoah Valley, back then.
    Suburban Maryland, too.
    Yeah, you got me on the age thing. I'm a January baby as well. DC and its surrounds were a lot different back then, weren't they? I remember the trolley cars in DC and the tracks going across Key Bridge to the turnstyle on the Virginia side in Roslyn. I'm a local so I've lived here my whole life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhurdan View Post
    HOLY CRAP!!! I know hills younger than you!!! hehe
    We're getting close to being three days older than dirt. Can't vouch for the hills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by berettabone View Post
    No ill will taken......you just have to remember and re-read austin's original post...........key words...." a little timid", " use a card, to keep me calm", " in the process of getting my CCW", " I am not worried about someone taking my really nice Kimber 1911"......and you think that it's a good idea for HIM to carry openly? What you do, for whatever reason, is your business.....I think that you have a few years on him, and more experience with firearms in general........I never stated that I think that open carry is totally wrong......I just don't think that it's a very good idea for him, at this time......personally, I don't want to run or fight either...that's why I DON"T open carry........I like the element of suprise, and I don't want the attention that open carry brings.......I also think that there is no difference in "awareness" whether you're carrying the firearm on the outside or the inside....carrying a firearm is a big responsibility, and you'd better be paying attention, no matter how the manner of carry...plus, you have no idea where he lives, exactly, so to play it safe, he needs to know what it's like out there. He needs to know, that, maybe in his town or city, it won't be a problem, but 50 miles away, it might be a real problem. No one really knows, unless they know their "area" real well.......Including my own state, even though it's legal, I can name tons of states and tons of cities where open carry is a real bad idea, ie Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois, Michigan, Indiana, Nevada, California, cities....Madison, Milwaukee, Chicago, Detroit, Gary, Las Vegas, San Diego...get what I mean? Any of these states, and cities, and there are more, are big problems for open carry. This is why they passed conceal carry laws...to eliminate the hassle, and fear, of open carry, and help protect the right of an individual to protect themselves. I applaud him for asking questions and seemingly, going about getting info in the right way....I just do not think he's ready for the open carry scenario yet, and may never be......................Virginia, beautiful state...I get jealous of the weather....would love to check it out sometime...love to fish, love to hike with the wife, although the feet and ankles are getting a little land worn, and the knees...ah, who are we kidding, it's hell getting old................
    This is why I suggested the OP go onto opencarry.org to ask his questions in the North Carolina forum. Those folks can be far more help than I can since they live there and know their state in these regards so well. Were I to venture about in the Raleigh tri-city area, I would do just that to get a feel for the local climate. And I would conceal probably much more than OC simply because I do not know their local flavor regarding visible sidearms.

    As I mentioned, I do both. While I favor open carry for the reasons I have already given, there most certainly are times when I conceal because I view it to be the better mode at the time.

    Enjoy your holiday weekend and stay safe.

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    I'll tell you from living in the area.... Raleigh is a very odd city when it comes to carrying. I highly highly highly highly highly highly (did i say highly?) recommend you carry concealed. There are a few places where you can get away with it, mainly towards Garner or Wakefield/Falls Lake, but other than that, no. If you're near or in Cary, you will be harassed by Cary PD.... assuming they don't just throw you in the back of squad car in silver bracelets. The Cary PD is infamous for being a bunch of asshat nazis. (I apologize to the select few that aren't, but you know it's true). State troopers in this area aren't exactly the friendliest bunch either. Just save yourself the misery and CC.

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    Good to know I aint the only one so old I dust

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    I have on a few occasions OC'd in VA Beach, Norfolk Chesapeake etc and had a CC permit there for years as well.....lived there in Tidewater for 50 years and never hassled by police using common sense and respectful dialog. Same has held true for Fla., Ala., and now Az........JJ

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    Zhurdan is correct.

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