Post By TAPnRACK
So I'm looking at buying my first handgun. It'll be used for home defense and concealed carry. I've done some looking around and I've found four that I am considering:
S&W M&P 40
Glock 22 gen 4
I'm just looking for some pros and cons or on past experiences with any of these.
Sig P229, of the choices you listed. May I ask why you chose the .40?
Of your list, I would get the M&P. I like it's ergonomics better than the Glock. I am not a fan of Sig. I am the only one in the world who hates their trigger. My first handgun was an SR40. I can't recommend it. Useless safety and magazine disconnect make it a no go. I did like how it shot. It's also a full size service pistol. The Glock you list is a compact.
I'm not a LEO or high end self defense guru. So take this with a grain of salt. Based on my research, the 9mm is the best defensive round with modern JHP ammo.
If I was going to buy a 40 for defense, including carry, I would get a CZ P-06 or P-07 in 40.
If you’re planning on buying your first handgun, you should try to put your hands on as many handguns as possible and shoot as many as possible. Everyone has different hand shapes, sizes and find different types of sights and calibers easier to use. The best first gun is the one that you can shoot most accurately. Once you find that, then you can start fine tuning your decision based on weight, concealability, caliber, etc.
There are gun shops that rent handguns to try before buying..... Hopefully there are some in your area......
A really good way to "try before you buy" is to take a class on defensive pistol shooting.
Generally, a good instructor will have several different guns for the class to try.
You will also learn something about the laws governing self defense, as well as self-defense-oriented shooting technique.
If this is to be your first handgun, you will find that using it is not easy, and hitting a target accurately is more difficult than you think.
I strongly suggest that you consider, as part of your investment, besides the gun itself, a really good belt-and-holster rig, and a course of instruction.
No, the G22 is a full size model. The compact version is the G23.
Originally Posted by Smitty79
Decent list from which to start. I would favor the Glock and the M&P... because I have both and therefore, experience with both. For carry purposes, you'd do better with the Glock 23 rather than its big brother the Glock 22.
Originally Posted by oneighthundred
I just picked up a gen4 Glock 23 12 days ago (I already have two gen3 versions of this model). I can attest to the fact that the gen4 G23 has noticeably less felt recoil and muzzle flip than does the gen3 version. After my usual Glock trigger mods, this gun returns a very nice 4 pound 11 to 12 ounce trigger. I also replaced the sights with some fabulous ones from Ameriglo (which I mixed and matched and did a write upon on this website yesterday).
The M&P 40 is one fine gun. Excellent handling and feeling characteristics, it is a natural pointer and quite accurate. Great gun for the .40S&W cartridge. Slightly larger than the Glock 23 and a hair smaller than the Glock 22, it's a good fit for anyone's collection and use. BTW, I carry my Glock 23 on a daily basis.
Sig's are fine guns but I have two problems with them. This model is a double action design and I don't care for double action pistols for carry use. And the Sig tends to have a higher bore axis than does some other pistols, like the Glock for example. Still, they are fine handguns and you could certainly do a lot worse.
I have no experience at all with the SR40 so my comments are strictly based upon observation. Two concerns for me with this gun are, 1) the externally settable safety and 2) the loaded chamber indicator. I don't like externally settable safeties on a carry gun... period. The last thing I want to worry about if I have to pull my gun is whether or not the safety has been set. It's a personal thing. And the loaded chamber indicator, while good that it is something that can be used in the dark, is not in a very good location on the gun, in my opinion. I much prefer how Glock and Kahr handle this feature.
Hope all of this helps you.
I'm still waiting for a response to GCBHM's question regarding the caliber choice (.40) for a first gun. Curious to find out why he decided on that particular caliber.
I appreciate all the replys thus far. I chise the .40 maily based off recomedation for friends and family but in truth I don't know muh about choosing a caliber.
In that case, I would recommend that you shoot all the viable caliber offerings so that you can determine what you shoot best. It very well may be the .40, and there is nothing wrong with that. But it may be the 9mm or .45. See if you can find a local gun range that rents guns to shoot and try several. You really can't go wrong with any of the manufacturers you listed. They're all quality guns. For me, if I were going to carry a .40, I would choose the P229 simply b/c I've shot all of them and know that platform suits me better. You really need to do the same.
Originally Posted by oneighthundred
I carry a HK VP9 in 9mm for my EDC gun, but I also have a Glock 19 Gen4 that I may carry at other times. I also have a Glock 42 .380 that I carry in certain situations. I like the striker fire pistols best for EDC, but you may find that one of the DA/SA pistols, like the P229, works best for you. My personal opinion is that a quality striker fire gun, like the Glock or M&P, is best for most people when it comes to personal/home defense and an EDC gun. Reason being is that they are simple to operate and maintain, most of them offer a version that has no external safeties (which is a personal preference thing), and they have a constant trigger pull that is really easy to get accustomed to with practice, especially having little experience with a handgun.
I also recommend taking a course or two on handguns and defense. These go a long way toward your confidence carrying and knowledge of when you can/should use your pistol to defend yourself or others. THAT is of vital importance. There are some good threads on this site about all this. I would recommend reading the sticky threads, and I've also posted some pretty good articles about defense shooting, etc.
Good luck and congratulations on your choice to carry! And welcome to the site.
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