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    Quote Originally Posted by SelfDefenseNovice View Post
    ...Questions: How do these snap-caps work. Do I have to pick them up from the floor and then reload the magazine after shooting. I'll have to clean them affter each shot. How many times can I fire them. Should I polish them every month.
    You can use one of them, over and over again, leaving it in the pistol's chamber and just thumb-cocking the gun's hammer for each "shot." You can also load a magazine full of them, and rack the gun's slide for each "shot." Using a 1911, I prefer the former.
    No, they do not need much cleaning...as long as you don't use them in a dirty gun. Don't polish them at all: You'll wear the distinctive red anodizing off.

    How a snap-cap works: It's a dummy cartridge. The "primer" is a chunk of shock-absorbing polymer that stops the firing-pin's movement without doing any damage to the gun.
    How to use snap-caps: Carefully make sure that your pistol is unloaded. First remove its magazine, and then check the chamber. Take all of your ammunition to another room. Return with only the snap-caps. Check the gun again. Now, load-up with the snap-caps and do your dry-fire practice. When you're done, take all of the snap-caps out of the room, and return with live ammunition. Talk to yourself: "This is live ammunition. I will not do any practicing with it." Load-up your pistol.


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    I bought a PT-1911 gun, 500 rounds of target ammo, 100 self defense rounds, a nylon holster, $10 cleaning kit, 2 NRA courses (yet to be taken), 75 decibel noise reduction headset, and 10 snap-caps.

    Should I buy anything else.

    What other things can make my life easier.
    As soon as you know what you're doing, get rid of that nylon holster and get a good-quality leather (or plastic) outfit that includes holster, belt, and reload-magazine pouch.
    Remember that the rig's belt is almost more important than the holster is. Buy the best quality that you can afford.
    Expect to spend $200.00 to $350.00, or maybe even more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    The "1911" is a very specific type of semi-automatic pistol. It is legal to own in all states which permit private ownership of handguns.
    Does the recently past gun laws in New York state (1/15/13) make the Taurus PT-1911 an illegal gun in that state, why or why not.

    One of the laws says something such as it's illegal to have gun magazines with more than a 7 round capacity. The PT-1911 has a 8 round capacity magazine.

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    That's the magazine, not the gun.

    The classic 1911 magazine holds only seven rounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    That's the magazine, not the gun.

    The classic 1911 magazine holds only seven rounds.
    Do you recommend that I try to return my Taurus PT-M1911 in favor of ordering a classic 1911 handgun. How should I approach my gun dealer about this. I don't think I even have this option.

    The fine print of my gun receipt says, All firearms and ammunition ordered are delivered directly from the manufacturer or distributor and all sales are final. ..., it's officiers, agents and employees are not responsible or liable for the malfunction or manufacturer's defect of your firearm or ammunition. Once you receive your firearm and you discover a malfunction or defect, please contact the manufactureer.

    Was the purchase of the Taurus PT-1911 premature?

    Anyway, you're saying the PT1911 8 round magazine is illegal in New York state. So, I can't own the magazine in NY, but the gun, itself, is legal in NY. So, if I were to move to NY state, I have to ditch the 8 round magazines. What should/can I do with them.

    Here's a silly question for you. Do you know of an easy way to store the 8 round magazines in Virginia with the option of mailing them to me later (a year or so later) when I request it.

    Or, if I move to NY should I throw away my 8 round magazines. What do you suggest I do. What would you do.

    Alternately, is there a 7 round magazine that I can buy for my Taurus PT-M1911. Do you have a link for them. How does the 7 round magazine affect things when I shoot the gun. I.E.: Does the gun shoot differently. Is the weight or balance significantly different, etc. Do you recommend changing out the magazines.

    Ultimately, would I be able to shoot the PT-M1911 in New York state, if so how! Or, in NY state does the Taurus PT-1911 become an unshootable mantle piece for display only.

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    This is what Sean Hannity said on his Jan 16 Fox Network TV show while talking to Michelle Malkin:

    And you better not have more than 7 bullets in a magazine. If you have a 10 clip magazine you can sill keep it. They're nice enough. But, you better be a good shot.
    I guess the magazine is legal as long as there are 7 bullets or less in the magazine.

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    I suggest doing nothing, and waiting until things sort themselves out.
    I also suggest purchasing three or four classic (maybe even ex-G.I.) seven-round magazines (from anyone except Triple-K). Use them instead of the eight-round versions.

    If you have an out-of-state friend, alert him or her to the fact that you may be sending a package to be retained for you.
    If the law stays unappealed and unchanged, then send the eight-round magazines to that friend via First Class Mail, which is a perfectly legal action, and just wait the storm out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    I also suggest purchasing three or four classic (maybe even ex-G.I.) seven-round magazines (from anyone except Triple-K). Use them instead of the eight-round versions.
    For a total cost of $191.47, my gun dealer ordered for me three 7 round magazines.

    Description: 45 ACP 7 Rounds Magazine
    Manufacturer: Ed Brown
    Item #: EB847

    It will take about 12 days for the magazines to arrive.

    These magazine are suppose to fit on many handguns.

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    They will fit, but that's a pretty high price!

    See if you can find ex-G.I. magazines from Gun Parts Corp. Click on: Firearm Parts & Accessories | Military Surplus | Numrich Gun Parts
    Also try Colt Parts. Click on: Antique Firearms & Colt Parts for Old Guns
    And, of course, there's Brownells. Click on: BROWNELLS 1911 MAGAZINES | Brownells

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    They See if you can find ex-G.I. magazines from Gun Parts Corp. Click on: Firearm Parts & Accessories | Military Surplus | Numrich Gun Parts
    Also try Colt Parts. Click on: Antique Firearms & Colt Parts for Old Guns
    And, of course, there's Brownells. Click on: BROWNELLS 1911 MAGAZINES | Brownells
    I called and talked to my gun owner's assistant before I went to the store. The assistant did not have time to look for the magazines before I went in.

    My gun dealer and his assistant looked through manuals for about 20 minutes before they found anything for my gun. They took out the magazine of another Taurus PT-1911 gun (from its gun case) and looked at that. After finding something in a manual, they found the actual price of the magazine online. The assistant looked the longest. They also searched google. It looked like they almost got to the point where they were going to give-up.

    I'm hoping that the three expensive magazines that I bought will (almost) last me a life time.

    I'll address any problems that I have when they happen.

    I'll keep my two 8 round magazines, but never use them if I, eventually, land up in a state such as New York. My gun dealer told me that using the 8 round magazines in a state such as NY could become a felony. He said people have a year to conform to the law.

    Thanks for the information

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    Your PT 1911 should be able to have a 7 round mag fit it. I have some 7rds that I carry only cause the FBI said they are more reliable v/s the 8rd mags "not sure that is true". NY is so dumb it didn't exempt it's own Police from the mag ban and will have to make new law giving them permission to carry more than 7 rounds. Make myself a mental note not to do any traveling to NY ever on vacation again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SelfDefenseNovice View Post
    I called and talked to my gun owner's assistant before I went to the store. The assistant did not have time to look for the magazines before I went in.

    My gun dealer and his assistant looked through manuals for about 20 minutes before they found anything for my gun. They took out the magazine of another Taurus PT-1911 gun (from its gun case) and looked at that. After finding something in a manual, they found the actual price of the magazine online. The assistant looked the longest. They also searched google. It looked like they almost got to the point where they were going to give-up.

    I'm hoping that the three expensive magazines that I bought will (almost) last me a life time.

    I'll address any problems that I have when they happen.

    I'll keep my two 8 round magazines, but never use them if I, eventually, land up in a state such as New York. My gun dealer told me that using the 8 round magazines in a state such as NY could become a felony. He said people have a year to conform to the law.

    Thanks for the information
    they have a year to conform then a high cap mag will become a misdemeanor and you will go to jail for a while.
    I ordered some Wolfe Mags that hold 7 rounds only. You can find the 7 rd mags but with the scare in all the people they are buying everything up. Call CDNN @ 800-588-9500 and tell them what mags you are looking for and you should have it soon.

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    On a wall at a local shooting range, there is a list of US states which honor the Virginia conceal carry permit.

    On the list, there was also a list of states under the heading "Virgina Res Permits". What is this?

    States that honor VA permit: ID, UT, MT, AZ, SD, NE, NM, TX, OK, MO, AR, LA, MS, IN, OH, PA, WV, KY, TN, NC, AK, and DE.

    VA Res permits only: FL, SC, and MI.

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    I believe that it lists states which honor the permits of Virginia residents only, as opposed to people who live elsewhere, and hold Virginia's non-resident permits.

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    In order to try and prevent shooting low and to the left, I'm going to try pulling the trigger as slow as possible. This way I am hoping to have more control of the gun. It's like I'll have a shorter squeeze of the trigger.

    Before, I would just pull the trigger fast. From the first movement of my trigger finger to the end would take let's say a second and involve an inch of movement.

    Tomorrow, I'll try very slowly moving my trigger finger. Before firing, I can stop and begin squeezing again. When the gun fires, I'll stop. This amounts to a shorter finger movement time and a shorter distance covered by my trigger finger.

    A longer fast squeeze time may be the cause of shots going low and to the left. I.E.: Three of my fingers from pinky-in are moved.

    If I move my trigger finger slow this will give me better control of my fingers. If I move my trigger finger a shorter distance the three pinky-in fingers will not move. This is because a shorter distance moved by the index finger means that control doesn't expand outwards to the other fingers. The distance moved by the index finger defines the control area from where-ever trigger finger movement starts to where-ever it ends. If I keep the control area small the three pinky-in fingers are never in the affected control area.

    Moving my trigger finger slow isolates its movement from the three pinky-in fingers.

    What do you think.

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    1. Don't think "squeeze." Instead, think "press." "Squeeze" involves curling the finger, while "press" implies moving a portion of your finger straight back.
    2. For a beginner, slow is always better than fast. Always try for "slow and smooth," rather than fast. "Fast" implies a jerky movement, but you want a smooth movement instead.
    3. As you already know, you need to isolate your trigger finger. ("Isolate" is dancer-speak for moving only that one finger, while the others remain unmoving.) Slow, smooth practice at isolating your trigger finger will cure the "low-and-left blues."

    There is a form of hand exerciser which will help you both strengthen all of your fingers, and isolate your trigger finger. Both my wife and I have used it quite successfully.
    It's called the Gripmaster, and we suggest using the medium-tension (red) version. Click on: http://www.gripmaster.com.au/, and have a look. You can get it locally, or on the web.

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