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    Re: Should a newbie consider a Hi-Point firearm?

    I've shot a high point my mother had bought one, I gave her my xd and told her to sell the high point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swany66675 View Post
    I've shot a high point my mother had bought one, I gave her my xd and told her to sell the high point.
    Now THERE'S some critical thinking for ya'! I commend you for making a decision based on facts and personal experience and NOT someone else's pre-conceived notion.

    That's good stuff right there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapetrarca53 View Post
    Applying those "critical thinking skills" to incorrect data or assumptions could get you killed some day!
    Applying "those critical thinking skills" would actually help you smoke out incorrect data or assumptions....or suspect testimonials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bisley View Post
    Applying "those critical thinking skills" would actually help you smoke out incorrect data or assumptions....or suspect testimonials.
    Thank you for finally seeing the light!

    As I've been stating, the majority of bashers have no exposure or experience with the product so, yes, by applying "critical thinking" skills based on heresay and someone else's expectations, a testimonial as to whether or not a product is fit for use by an individual with no REAL experience with the product becomes suspect IMMEDIATELY!

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    We have an interesting topic I think. Sometimes I can really pick em'. Seriously, I have never seen a Hi-Point handgun in person and I can not find one locally to see and and have something to go on. My local pawn shop does not sell handguns and my local gun shop does not sell Hi-Point and they told me to avoid them basically saying they are junk. It is kinda hard to make up my own mind when I can not locate one. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapetrarca53 View Post
    Thank you for finally seeing the light!

    As I've been stating, the majority of bashers have no exposure or experience with the product so, yes, by applying "critical thinking" skills based on heresay and someone else's expectations, a testimonial as to whether or not a product is fit for use by an individual with no REAL experience with the product becomes suspect IMMEDIATELY!
    Now you're starting to 'get it.'

    By the same token, a person who comes out in favor of a product is just one person who liked their experience with it - not statistical proof, worthy of a defense to the death. Your wonderful experience with a Hi Point carries no more empirical weight than that other guy on the Internet who likes them.

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    If it was such a fine firearm, why did you get rid of it?
    Quote Originally Posted by lapetrarca53 View Post
    Thank you for finally seeing the light!

    As I've been stating, the majority of bashers have no exposure or experience with the product so, yes, by applying "critical thinking" skills based on heresay and someone else's expectations, a testimonial as to whether or not a product is fit for use by an individual with no REAL experience with the product becomes suspect IMMEDIATELY!

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    I contacted my local Federal agency concerning study grants available.......they told me, due to the fact that more Americans were using food stamps, the forgiveness of college loan interest, free contraceptives, Obamacare, the Dream Act, and the continuing fight at our borders...there would be no grant money available for at least the next four years.
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    berettabone, you show all of the earmarks of a true scientist!
    I suggest that you apply to the federal government for a study grant, so that you might develop useful statistical information for us all.

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    OK, well, maybe lapetrarca would be interested in contributing...

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    In the immortal words of Nancy Reagan " Just say NO!" .



    Just out of curiosity, how about yourself? Ever shot one?
    Never tried man love either.

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    I have a Hi Point 4095TS carbine (40 S&W $279). It's not used for any kind of defense. It's my "play" gun. And it's a hoot to shoot. I've put a couple thousand rounds of my reloads thru it without "ANY" glitches. NOT ONE! Now I'm not pushing Hi Point. If I were having any problems with it, I'd say so. All I'm doing is sharing my experience with my Hi Point. Go to youtube and do a search on Hi Point. You'll find a ton of videos on them. Do they last? I guess I'll find out. But if I could have only one gun, it would NOT be a Hi Point. I'd scrimp and save until I could afford more quality. But I already have a bunch of quality guns, and I wanted to experiment a little with my first "black gun". So far, my Hi Point carbine has been a totally fun and utterly reliable gun! Only time will tell if it remains that way. I just hope this experiment doesn't create a desire for an AR.

    OP. Here's the Hi Point forum. Go here and get educated on Hi Point: http://www.hipointfirearmsforums.com/forum/

    Happy Shooting,

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    Quote Originally Posted by s1mp13m4n View Post
    Hello everyone. I did not see a brand forum for the Hi-Point so I thought I would ask about them here as I am new to guns and do not own my first firearm yet. I am not trying to start a huge debate but I have a few questions about this brand. First off is this brand a case of "you get what you pay for" or is it a serious value for the money? I understand that a gun like this could never stand up to a Glock but is a Hi-Point a quality gun at a cheap price? Why is a Hi-Point so cheap and a S&W three times the price? Thanks for the input and for helping me learn.
    Not trying to start a "Huge Debate"...funny.
    What are your expectations? It's an inexpensive gun made from inexpensive materials. It's unlikely that it would become a treasured family heirloom. On the positive side, the company has developed a surprisingly good reputation for great customer service.
    What is your intended use? For plinking, go for it. For just a cheap toy for killing cans, it'll probably do the job just fine. They do have a spotty reputation for reliability. One will run like a clock, others can't go through a magazine without a problem. Which one will you get? I wouldn't recommend betting one's life on it's performance, (not without a lot of testing) but that's personal choice.
    If you must buy new, I would steer you toward a Ruger P95, at around $300-$350, it's hard to beat. The Stoeger Cougar is another one. Old School (Metal) Beretta design at fire sale prices ($400 +/-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overkill0084 View Post
    Not trying to start a "Huge Debate"...funny.
    What are your expectations? It's an inexpensive gun made from inexpensive materials. It's unlikely that it would become a treasured family heirloom. On the positive side, the company has developed a surprisingly good reputation for great customer service.
    What is your intended use? For plinking, go for it. For just a cheap toy for killing cans, it'll probably do the job just fine. They do have a spotty reputation for reliability. One will run like a clock, others can't go through a magazine without a problem. Which one will you get? I wouldn't recommend betting one's life on it's performance, (not without a lot of testing) but that's personal choice.
    If you must buy new, I would steer you toward a Ruger P95, at around $300-$350, it's hard to beat. The Stoeger Cougar is another one. Old School (Metal) Beretta design at fire sale prices ($400 +/-)
    The goal is an all around gun for legal everyday concealed carry and also for the fun of shooting at the range. I have learned about Bersa firearms and people seem to like them for the money. Sure I will get a Ruger if I can afford one. I am in no hurry to buy, that is why I am learning now and saving as I go.

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    Re: Should a newbie consider a Hi-Point firearm?

    Bersa I always seem to forget them, I have a friend that carries a firestorm in 9 and loves it. I've shot it a few times and seems like a good gun.

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