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    Handgun for a One-Handed Shooter?

    Hello, all. I've had a bit of experience shooting revolvers in the past with my father, but I'm completely clueless when it come to semi-auto pistols. I had been planning to purchase my first pistol, but after an unfortunate injury I have found myself in a position where I have no choice but to amputate my left arm.

    Thankfully I'm right handed, but I have found myself struggling to adapt to the news, and I have a feeling that this is going to make my hopes of owning a semi-automatic pistol impossible. Granted, I have no grudge against revolvers, I've fired them quite a few times before and know them to be reliable firearms. they're also something I can reasonably manage with the use of a single hand, but for a number of reasons I can't seem to let the idea of a semi-auto pistol go.. For example I planned to use the pistol for self defense, and as such I imagine there may be situations where I need to use the gun in the dark. I've yet to find a revolver I can modify with a tactical flashlight, and being that I will soon only have one hand, that makes carrying a flashlight (and using it safely) impossible. I suppose I could carry it in my mouth or on a headband, but then I can't control it without putting down my weapon, nor can I speak, and I feel wearing a light on your head is more dangerous than trying to manage in the dark.

    For that and several other reasons such as ammo capacity I still find myself drawn toward purchasing a semi-automatic. Here, however, lies my question and problem.

    I'm sure by now you've already thought to yourself "but how do you rack the slide" or "how do you clear a jam", and to both of these, I have no clue. I came here to ask if there's anyone who thinks (or better yet, knows) that it *IS* possible/reasonable to manage a semi-automatic pistol with the use of a single hand, and if so is there anything to look for that could make a difference in ease of use?

    I've heard and seen that police and soldiers are taught one-handed drills in case they need to use their weapon when injured, however I understand these are SHTF tactics and I'm unsure as to if they're reliable or bad for your weapon (i.e. racking the slide with the rear sight)

    I recently visited a local gun shop to try and ask a few questions on the matter, as well as asked permission to handle a pistol just to see if I could handle the weight and try to gauge how much force it takes to chamber a round, but their reaction to my inquiries were, unexpected. Not only did the salesman laugh in my face in response to my asking if a one-armed shooter can reasonably manage a semi-auto pistol, but he completely denied my request to even see a pistol, and walked away without even offering to suggest a more manageable option like a revolver.

    For that reason I'm admittedly a bit reluctant to pursue the matter any further, and before visiting a different shop or asking any more questions in person I wanted to get some opinions online to see if his reaction was warranted.

    Though I was crushed when I was given the news by my doctor (My first thought was actually "Does that means I can't handle guns properly") I found a decent amount of somewhat inspiring information when I did more research. It really didn't seem entirely outlandish to me to think that, though undoubtedly less masterfully than a two-handed shooter, I should at least be able to get by operating one. However given the response my questions got I can't help but feel I'm greatly mistaken.

    Thanks in advance for whatever input you may be able to give, even if it's just to agree that a revolver is the clear choice. Furthermore, regardless of which type of weapon you think best, I hope someone may be able to give some suggestions as to specific guns they think might be the most appropriate choices for a beginner, as well as perhaps any modifications or features that may make the ability to shoot proficiently single-handed that much more within my reach. (Just as a point of reference for my single-hand limitations, I recently tried firing a Ruger SP101 with a 3" barrel and had no issues handling that level of weight (around 30 oz) nor caliber (It's .357, but I only loaded 38 specials at the time) though I don't think I could manage a higher caliber properly, and too much heavier would likely require me to do some exercises else I might fatigue too quickly and lose accuracy)

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    ok, looks like you need to make the best of the situation you have been dealt.... the rear sight CAN effectively be used to cycle the slide with no damage to sturdy sights.... if you want the semi auto, get one, learn to use it within your capabilities... remember, tho it will be more dangerous because of your handicap, but guns are dangerous anyway.... it can be done IF you have the desire to overcome the obstacle

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    on a further note, i would be looking for a pistol with a magazine activated slide lock , easier to reload if the empty mag holds open the slide. i wouldnt worry much about reloading for self defense... my poll here on the subject showed that of the very very minute percent of people who fired a shot fired only one or two... so your reloading will be at the range... so get a 12 to 15 round mag in a wondernine and you are golden, its just technique

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    I would suggest starting with a .22 maybe in the Ruger Mark series or the Ruger SR22. Get used to that and then move up to a higher caliber when you are comfortable. Good luck and let us know how it goes and what you chose!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolChick86 View Post
    I would suggest starting with a .22 maybe in the Ruger Mark series or the Ruger SR22...
    I apologize for being blunt, but this is very bad advice from someone who does not understand your problem.
    Every gun in the Ruger line of .22 rimfire, semi-auto pistols requires two hands for successful operation.
    A one-handed person cannot rack the bolt of a Ruger .22.

    You might want to start off with a .22 semi-auto, but it would have to be one with an exterior slide and a large, solid rear sight.

    My advice is that a semi-auto pistol with the correct characteristics would be a better choice for you than any revolver. At issue is the problem of reloading.
    The procedure for loading and preparing to fire with only one hand is simple, but fraught with danger. Using any gun will require many short spurts of dry-fire practice until you get all of the safety kinks worked out. But it can be done.
    Loading-up and reloads are accomplished by gripping the pistol between your knees, legs slightly flexed, with the gun's grip and magazine well uppermost. Getting the gun into and out of this position places your body parts in serious danger, which is why the procedure must be practiced over and over again, and the practice must be viewed and critiqued with a critical mind set on "full attention."

    The best semi-auto pistol for you is one with an exterior slide upon which is mounted a large, sturdy, strongly-attached rear sight. It would be best, were that pistol to have a side-of-grip-mounted magazine-release button. A further aid would be an easy-to-manipulate slide release, as Ted suggested, that falls naturally to your thumb.

    The procedure is to drop the empty magazine first, then to grip the pistol between your knees with the magazine well uppermost, and then to sharply and decisively thrust a loaded magazine into place, making sure that it locks into place. Finally, you grasp the pistol in a firing grip, and by hooking the rear sight on your belt, you rack the gun's slide to chamber a cartridge and cock the mechanism.
    Should you then fire the gun to slide-lock-empty, you drop the magazine and replace it, grip the pistol, and thumb the slide release.

    BTW: This is a maneuver that all of us two-handed people ought to practice, too. Think about it.

    The gun shop you told us about was staffed by idiots, and owned by a fool. Go somewhere else.
    I suggest that you phone ahead, explain your problem, further explain that you know what you need to do to overcome your handicap, and ask for help in choosing a pistol.
    If the response is positive, visit that store. If the clerk to whom you speak tries to tell you what you should buy, ask to speak to someone else.
    Persevere.

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    I was suggesting it for the manageable recoil. It is going to be hard to rack any slide and should start with manageability and stabilization while shooting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolChick86 View Post
    .... It is going to be hard to rack any slide and should start with manageability and stabilization while shooting.
    its not hard at all, its a common technique, as the OP has stated, taught so that if injured in combat you are still able to be somewhat effective. a table, door jam, stair or even your holster may be used to catch the rear sight and rack the slide. AGAIN, COMBAT! .... this may also be used to clear a stovepipe or ftfeed...

    it is not the safest way, the muzzle will rarely be pointed down range but again, if you are aware and using proper technique, it doesnt matter

    as for the ruger mark series, i didnt think i could do so but i was able to use the door and the jam to cycle the bolt.... took a few tries and a couple of bloody knuckles, but i did do it, hardest part is releasing the magazine with the heal release. oh, tore the door up a lil too....

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    PistolChick86;
    I apologize. I did not properly catch your reference to the Ruger SR22.
    It, alone of all of the Ruger .22 semi-auto pistols, has an exterior slide and can be racked using the rear sight (assuming that the sight is metal, sturdy, and strongly attached).
    The other, tubular-receiver, Ruger .22s with internal bolts are, as Ted discovered, unsuited to the one-handed shooter.

    I should've read more carefully, and written more slowly.

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    what is wrong with a large capacity 9mm (like glock 17) and having a friend load it?
    I doubt if most shootouts in HD situations require more than 15+ rounds.
    after the unfortunate event get a frient to reload it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hideit View Post
    what is wrong with a large capacity 9mm (like glock 17) and having a friend load it?....
    i think the object here for the OP is self reliance .... and i think it is entirely possible for him to be so. while it will not be easy, nothing will be that once was.... dressing, eating, driving.... but all can be mastered with ingenuity and perseverance.

    him shooting will just be technique... loading a magazine with the aid of a superthumb or the like will be possible, perhaps loading a round less than capacity will make it easier...

    i say go solo, and let us know how you do, you cant be the first and will not be the last time this has happened.

    and i would offer the following suggestion, that the OP change his nick to LEFTY.... and move on, doing the things that he wants to do!

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    The Beretta Cheetah model 86 has a tip up barrel which can be chambered with one hand. It is a well-engineered and well-made product. It is reliable. It carries 13 or 14 rounds--I forget which--of .380 caliber ammo. While .380 caliber is not my first choice in a defensive handgun, it would be if I were one-handed as you describe. It is a medium to full size weapon with a light recoil that can easily be handled in one hand. I had the double stack with the conventional slide and it was an excellent weapon (but .380 was not as good in 1978 as it is nowadays). I had a tip up Beretta .25 and it was a perfectly reliable gun.

    I believe it is out of production now, but I see ads for it every once in a while. See: Beretta Web - model 86

    My error, it carries 8 in the magazine plus one in the chamber.

    For sale here for $450.00: http://www.gunsamerica.com/931494854..._short_380.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    PistolChick86;
    I apologize. I did not properly catch your reference to the Ruger SR22.
    It, alone of all of the Ruger .22 semi-auto pistols, has an exterior slide and can be racked using the rear sight (assuming that the sight is metal, sturdy, and strongly attached).
    The other, tubular-receiver, Ruger .22s with internal bolts are, as Ted discovered, unsuited to the one-handed shooter.

    I should've read more carefully, and written more slowly.
    Heck, I don't think you could take one of those Ruger Mark series 22s with just 1 hand.

    They can be a pain to disassemble

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    With all respect to those who suggested it, racking the slide with the sights is an emergency protocol only. You should not consider it to be a standard operating practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Packard View Post
    With all respect to those who suggested it, racking the slide with the sights is an emergency protocol only. You should not consider it to be a standard operating practice.
    if i only got one hand, its a fricken emergency and screw protocol ....

    there are MANY pistols out there that have rear sights DESIGNED to by used for this, the sight doesnt know if it is an emergency or not and will continue to operate as designed whether or not the above poster agrees or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TedDeBearFrmHell View Post
    if i only got one hand, its a fricken emergency and screw protocol ....

    there are MANY pistols out there that have rear sights DESIGNED to by used for this, the sight doesnt know if it is an emergency or not and will continue to operate as designed whether or not the above poster agrees or not.
    If I suddenly find that I have one useable hand, yes that is an emergency. But if I know going in that I will have one useable hand that is not an emergency. That is something that should be planned for. As I see it, a flip up barreled auto or a revolver are the only two viable options.

    A .22 magnum revolver will offer the round count he is after with the light recoil that is frequently advisable when shooting with one hand. The Beretta 86 offers light recoil with a flip barrel that does not require racking the slide.

    Planning in advance avoids the emergency issues entirely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Packard View Post
    ... As I see it, a flip up barreled auto or a revolver are the only two viable options.....

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    Definitely some good information so far, and thanks to everyone who has posted. I certainly understand that I'll have to put a good deal more effort into just being able to properly use a semi-auto than I would ever need to bother with a revolver, though given the opinions I've heard thus far I definitely think I'm capable of handling it with at least some degree of manageability. I am however thinking that in terms of a purely personal defense weapon, owning a revolver may be one of the better choices. It's reliable and takes little practice to be able to ready one in a high-stress situation (Though I imagine I wouldn't leave a defense gun unloaded knowing I'll have issues with it..). However I have not given in on my desire for a semi-auto. Even if it ends up being a weapon I shoot almost purely for the pleasure of doing so, I think I can definitely get good enough to at least shoot leisurely with one, even if it doesn't end up as my emergency-situation weapon of choice.

    I'll have to make sure I narrow my search a bit and try to find a few weapons with the specifications that were mentioned, and a special thanks to Ted and Steve for all the help, I can definitely see how small details can make a world of difference in ease of use.

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    I'm sorry for your misfortune, I saw this video last year, impressive effort.

    He loads mags with his toes!

    Michael shoots his .45 with his feet - YouTube

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    Apology accepted. I do understand what you are saying about the Mark Series and did catch myself realizing it after the fact but I feel that I am right about the SR22. I myself own both pistols and would not have suggested them without having handled both.

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