Hey AubieGirl have you look at the colt .380 Mustang Pocketlite it has a single action trigger pull I don't know what the weight of the trigger is but you might have the gun shop check the trigger with a set of trigger weights now the barrel is not a tip up but the gun has a short trigger & a small frame so it might fit your hands. the walter ppk might work for you as well also if you know a cop or knows somebody who know cop they might train you now you might have to pay for the training some cops train people on the side for a little extra money I hope this helps & good luck.
AubieGirl there something I forgot to mention in my other post the reason why the cobra .380 hurt your hand it might have a weak or broken recoil spring you might want to try a diffrent .380 & see how it feels when you shoot it also there one more gun I forgot to mention the bersa .380 is another small all metal .380 them three is the only all metal .380 I can think of I hope you find what you are looking for.
I agree with 45.Try a all steel frame .380.The weight will soak up some recoil.As with anything there are always tradeoffs.In a handgun less weight equals more recoil.I havent heard anything bad about Bersa but no experience.I read of a study giving ladies choices and none liked a polymer frame .380 due to recoil.The report can be overcome with ear protection.
Yes,you were correct that the lighter gun would recoil more on you.The 380s work on the blowback principle like the 22s,if there is a delayed blowback I'm not sure because I've been away from the smaller guns so long.For that reason I've always found the 380s a little on the violent side for such a small cartrige.The Walther PPK and PPK/S have been around a long time,but I never liked them.The triggers are aweful heavy and gritty,and the bottom of the slides were sharp.It may not do it with your hands but the slide drags the top of my hand.They may have changed by now but I don't know.The Sig 232 is a newer 230,which is a nicer copy of the PPK.I liked both my 230s,the trigger was smoother but the DA was still pretty heavy.
I think your best bet is stay with the 22 for now and get the learning down,some searching will find you something you can trade yours in on.Once you're comfortable and your hands and arms strengthen up,a 9mm would be a next step.The 9 is cheap ammo wise and the lighter loads can recoil a little lighter than the 380 in alot of guns.Don't waste your time on the 25 or 32 though,I see them as better than nothing for a scare factor but alot have a hard time hitting the side of a barn.
Good luck and take care for now.You guys may get lucky and just get the weak edge of the storm,I may have to go buy a boat in a few days LOL.
I have been trying to keep up with this thread for a few days, but I may have missed something in my reading. May I ask why you want the gun? What is its intended purpose?
For self defense & possibly concealed carry.
Originally Posted by Holly
If you really need that tip-up barrel,,,
If you really need that tip-up barrel,,,
Then you are limited to the Taurus you own,,,
Or several other Beretta mouse-guns that Taurus copies.
There is only one other tip-up barrel gun,,,
The Model 86 Beretta Cheetah.
It is chambered for the .380 cartridge,,,
It is approximately the same size as a Walther PPK or a Bersa Thunder 380.
Unfortunately they are not made any more,,,
And used ones are prized and pricey.
You will easily pay $500.00 and probably more.
Aubie girl,I may be out of line but was wondering what town you live near.I like you had moved back to Tx after living in Ala for 15 yrs in Talladega.Seems anywhere you live there it is a long trip.I also lived in Leeds and worked in Bham.Maybe take a trip to Leeds to Bass Pro shop for larger selection.I think they have a range and you can make it a shopping trip.I sure miss Ala,no matter what people say I think it is Gods country.I hope the info I give helps and dont hesitate to ask.
Originally Posted by skullfr
I live near Ft. Payne, AL. I recently made my first to the races in Talladega & had a blast! Not really a race fan but I enjoyed the people watching, lol. I just learned about a really nice range in ATL that I'm gonna check out next time I'm there. Heard they have lots to choose from.
Thanks so much for your help!
I think I'm gonna have to give up on the tip-up barrel & possibly go with a 9mm. I have plans to visit a range that rents handguns so hopefully I will find one I love then.
Originally Posted by aarondhgraham
Thanks so much!
I know you said you were not interested in revolvers but one simular to a 3" model 66 smith would do you much better until you get better training. Ammo cost will be less and you can shoot either da or sa as you want. You will be able to use light load 38 spl. to practice and good self defense loads or hot .357 mag loads if you want. You should not have a trigger length pull problem. It may not be your first choice but it may be your better choice so don't exclude them out of hand.
Originally Posted by AubieGirl
I think you meant to say you do NOT want a revolver. But I'm still gonna tell you what we just bought my girlfriend who is 67. We got her a Ruger LCR 38 Special revolver for $399. For her, a revolver is more intuitive (quicker to deploy and shoot accurately). Because it's a revolver, there are no safeties or feed issues to deal with. It's super, super light, reliable as dirt, accurate as all heck, and has a butter smooth trigger. We've shot hers extensively and she really really likes it. She's gotten pretty good with it and I pity the poor sole she drops the hammer on. Speaking of hammers, the LCR's hammer is enclosed, so it can literally be fired from inside a jacket pocket or from underneath the sheets.
Here's a very informative video on the Ruger LCR in 38 Special.
Hey Aubiegirl if you go with a 9mm taurus makes some nice models of that caliber here are the models they have in 9mm the 709 Slim the Millennium Pro & the 24/7 G2 also here a way that you can get some more strenght in your hands you might try a nerf ball they make one a little smaller than a baseball you can prodaley find them at Walmart or K mart get one & start squzesing it as much as you can when you have the time it might help gain some strenght in your fingers & grip I broke my left wrist & the physical therapist gave me one & it help me gain strenght back in my hands it a great excersice for your hands also you will want to load your gun with hollowpoints for self defence good luck .
I suggest you widen your horizons. Look at different pistols -- perhaps the Sig 238 in .380. It does not have a tip up barrel, but racking it is not that difficult -- it is single action with a safety - so, you can carry it "cocked and locked" -- in a HOLSTER.
I happen to HATE the long trigger pull of most DAO pistols.
Another thought is to check out the Sig 250 -- it is double action only but has a smooth trigger. Next, see how you handle a mid sized Glock in 9mm (Glock 19) -- perhaps that would be easier to rack -- I do not know -- I'm an old woman but still have fairly strong hands -- anyway, learn both the proper stance and the proper grip -- that makes everything easier. A mid size pistol in 22 might be the best way to learn, but when we figure in finances the "ideal" is not always possible.
Those little "mouse guns" are NOT a good tool to learn how to shoot. In fact, I happen to think they are only useful if you are grounded in the proper techniques -- if you can already shoot well.
I do not think "cute" should be in anyone's gun vocabulary. Nor should "pink" be a part of that vocabulary. Guns are tools -- like any tool, you have to learn how to use it.
One tip -- when racking a slide, if you push with one hand, and pull with the other, it becomes much easier -- some folks like pistols with front serrations -- they find it easier to rack when gripping the front. Another possibility is exercise -- hand, wrist, and forearm -- makes shooting much easier.
NO ONE knows how to shoot when they first pick up a gun. Many of us are mostly self taught -- with tips from others and from reading the occasional book on pistol shooting. At least that way we learn the basics. Many of us have bad habits that we have overcome through practice -- at least overcome enough to be decent shooters. It's much easier if you do not have to unlearn bad habits.
Another possibility is the Springfield XDm compact in 9mm. If I recall correctly, it's not that hard to rack.
By the way, one reason the itty-bitty little pistols are difficult to shoot is the very short sight radius. Exact placement of the front sight, relative to the rear is critical. Any variation is magnified. A pistol with a longer barrel is easier to shoot, easier to shoot accurately.
It's not any fun if you can't hit the target. Becoming proficient is not a chore -- shooting is fun. Shooting decently is MORE fun. It's also VERY empowering. As one version of an old saying goes: "'God made man and woman; Colonel Colt made them equal'."
It's a little big for concealed carry, but with its hi-tech engineering and light weight, you might find a Magnum Research Mountain Eagle or a similar 22LR like the Exactor or IMI (used by the Israeli army for training) to your liking. It has a sturdy plastic body but machined steel innards, a long barrel for accuracy, and holds 15 rounds in the mag. Easy-to-see sights and virtually no recoil. The only drawback is that magazines are expensive, so if you get one it's a good idea to watch the auctions and snag an extra when one comes up. It's a very unique collectible pistol, so it'll likely increase in value over time. And they're nothing but fun to shoot.
Someone suggested a CZ 82 or 83 and while they are outstanding pistols, they're obviously too big and heavy for you based on what you've said about your hand strength. But a CZ-70 or 50 in 32acp might work for you. More comfortable than a 380, and easy to control. CZ's are superb and reliable guns. They're bargain priced and I'd bet you'd have fewer problems with a used one than with a new gun in its class, unless you paid three times as much.
The other good suggestions already made were to go to a rental range and try out some guns before you take the plunge again. And to consider a revolver. It might not be as "cool" as a semi in your eyes, but would be easy to load and fire.
even though i am really new in this where as i am researching the diffrent handguns, I came across some sites calling the right hand gun for woman or woman and Handguns and came across some u-tubes where it was two diffrent ladies doing the u-tube and they explain different types of guns, both had diffrent ideas on which on is best but also said that you should try diffrent guns before you purchase, that way you have an idea.
a friend of mine, my neigbor and I are going to a course in aug, and the last month i have been watching utubes, clicking on diffrent website,, i have them safed so i will right down all the diffrent ones and list them.
Lisa- Hamilton NJ
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