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    Go to the range and rent some guns you have researched and shoot them, the one that works for you is what matters. I'm a big fan of Glocks IMO they are great guns. They come in full size, compact and sub compact and are very reliable, far as safeties there isn't really any besides the trigger.

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    This is strictly my opinion, and has worked in many years of firearms training, and for men and ladies alike.

    Get some training FIRST. Reputable instructors provide a host of handguns for you to experience in class. That will give you some idea of where you're preferences might lead you in handgun selection. Then.....

    Buy a handgun just like you would buy a pair of shoes. If Ol' Joe over here says he likes Charlie China tennis shoes, and you're looking for a new pair of shoes, do you run out and buy Joe's pick, just because HE likes 'em? Probably not. If a new shooter is asking what to buy for a carry gun, it doesn't matter what works for me, or anyone else. I suggest telling that new shooter to go to many gun shops, and/or gun shows, and handle all the guns they can get hold of. Just like they would try on shoes. Before long they'll be able to make a list of guns that feel ok, pretty good, real good, and "that really feels great in my hands". The last two are the ones to pursue, and here's why I say that....If a given handgun doesn't feel "right" in your hands, you'll not shoot it enough to become proficient with it, because it's not comfortable, and you won't like shooting it. Just like you rarely wear shoes that are UNcomfortable. If you're not gonna become proficient with it, save your money, and buy a ball bat to carry. With proper fundamentals, he/she can learn to shoot almost any handgun, or any caliber. Very few folks can re-train their hands to make just any handgun feel comfortable. The last suggestion... again....get some training......proper shooting techinques, practiced slowly, but proficiently, will breed speed. Do it slowly, and do it the right way, every time.......If you practice speed first, and introduce less efficient techniques into your training, you'll have to do it all over again to get it right.

    By the way..... anyone who introduces a new shooter to our pastime by having them start with a large-caliber handgun, makes a very poor decision. Yes, some folks do ok starting out with large calibers, but the vast majority
    will not continue to shoot if their very 1st experience is with .50 S&W. Start with a .22 caliber something, and as your technique/accuracy improves, work up from there. Caliber doesn't count until after you can hit your target.

    There always will be a trade-off..... light weight, more recoil...... shorter barrel, more recoil... just sayin....

    Again, just my ramblings.... but they work for me...

    Shoot Safely....

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    Beretta PX4 Compact, you can thank me later, or a Glock 19, but I prefer a good DA/SA w/ a decocker as an EDC. Sig in a compact, XDM 3.5, M&P compact, SR9C, ..........etc. You have to be the one who knows what you want, but any of the above is a good start.
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    Thank you all for yout replies, after reading through them, all have been informative. And while I do appreciate all the information given about taking lessons, I'm afraid I don't have the luxury of time. Yet.

    I will be going through some training but for now, I still need to have a concealed weapon since threat is imminent. That's basically why I'd prefer a 9mm since it's the easiest to shoot while having considerable power unlike those of .22's.

    I'd really appreciate gun and model suggestions though.

    Again, thank you everyone who has replied

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    I'm going to buy a Ferrari and start racing now. Sometime in the future I'll get training on how to drive a high performance race car, but right now I need the car. That doesn't make much sense to me, getting a weapon to carry right now without training is just asking for trouble. If you don't have to use it, no problem. If you get into a bad situation and make a mistake, you will pay for that the rest of your life. How much time will you have then?

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    I personally prefer the Kahr P9 if your looking for a compact auto. If you want a double stack then a CZ75 D PCR, in revolvers the Chiappa Rhino and yes I do own ever one that I mention except the Kahr which is one of the original TP-9s that had the P model frame with the Tactical slide and barrel.

    Theres my $.02 cents worth.

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    It probably doesn't make much sense to you since your not the one in need, right? What makes a lot of sense to other people doesn't necessarily make sense to you and vice-versa.

    I asked for suggestions, not opinion and judgement on how I may or may not handle a firearm.

    And I came to this forum to seek just that in the hopes that members here would not be as snobbish and arrogant as you are.

    Given, you might know a lot more than I do with regards to firearms but you don't really have to go breathing down my neck an forcing me to do something I CAN'T just yet. Shooting is not exactly rocket science . It doesn't mean that just coz you know a lot, doesn't mean you shoot better than everyone else.

    Would've been nice to see more constructive replies unlike you're "oh, i know better than all of you" posts. Jeez, man. How simple is it to focus on the question and not your uncalled for opinion and lectures?

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    Since you are planning training,ignore 1/2 these posts.I would like to know your location though,you said "country" so I'm seeing that as not the US.

    Anyway,for a serious fighting sidearm look at HKs or Glocks.I carry a 1911 but I wouldn't recommend one now for a few reasons.

    I personally don't like Glocks for a few reasons but that's beside the point,what pertains to your requirements is "lack of a safety".Glocks have a few safeties,but the one you're looking for was put in the trigger for some dumb reason.Glock invented this device as far as I know ,and everybody jumped on the new fad,why I just don't understand.Anyway,if you did like one it would serve you well.These were designned as a military sidearm that didn't quite cut it to dethrone anyone,so LE and civilian sales were targeted heavily and it paid off.

    Since capacity matters,I'd leave the 1911 and grab my USP because it's laid out similar to a 1911,and they are damn near indestructable.The USP is a bit large but the P30 and P2000 are a little more streamlined.I've shot only a P7 in 9 so I can't tell you about those personally,but I love my 45.Magazines are expensive compared to quite a few others,but that's still in your pricerange easily.

    HK isn't like a normal gun company,they are a military and LE contractor that happens to sell to the public.They don't see a niche market happening and design something quick to make money,ain't gonna happen.Their guns are built to live in combat,and alot of nations trust their lives to them and have for a long time.For being innovative with weapons design,I'd put them right with J.M.Browning and Sam Colt to name a few.All just my opinion though.

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    I am a Beretta guy at heart, but since you have a few different "wants" in a firearm, I really like the H&K P30...nice firearm.....

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    @ rex and berretabone:

    Finally, some replies definitely worth reading. I'd rather not disclose my exact location as I don't really want to affect tourism in any way, big or small. I resid in a beautiful country it's just the criminals and gov't destroying it. And no, it's not in the USA.

    I've recently held and shot (finally) my friend's 9mm Springfield Armory XDM.

    I totally love it! It feels much, much better in the hands than the Sig P250 does and comes with a whole load of things. His XDM came with a speed loader, a holster, a lock of some sort, a magazine holster, two mags and the gun, of course. Plus the recoil is surprisingly very manageable. I mean, I wouldn't know what to compare it to but I seem to be able to handle the recoil comfortably. The gun just works! I think I'm pretty much sold...

    So I went to the gun shop earlier, they have the XDM and selling them at $1,350. Is that a good price or should I hunt for cheaper ones?

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    Start the hunt.....they are going for $500-550 here......

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    Hahaha,I'll just stay here for vacation until you get the scum under control.

    The XD line is pretty popular,the Smith M&P is probably a little more popular here outside of Glock but they are all good.Another gun that really is gaining attention is Wather's PPQ,everyone seems to love it.

    The price is hard to say,it's very high compared to here but we have no import taxes on those.Really the only way to tell is compare prices where you are between available dealers.Here they go in the $500 area and the only extras your buddy got should be the mag loader and holsters.We complain about the price rise over the last decade,I feel for you guys if that's an average price.

    Since you like the XD so well,I'd say shop around for the best price and pick it up,you have protection and a gun for your training courses.Later on you can trade off if you find something you like better,but aren't stuck in the same situation as now.Good luck man,we aren't quite as bad as you but will be if people don't wake the hell up.Keep that family safe.

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    The bulk of what I'll be paying is probably import tax... I'll most probably wait for a gun show to spring up somewhere in the area before I make my purchase.

    Guess I will be taking a few lessons while waiting. Thanks fo the suggestions.

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    replying to an old post i know but p250 is a great gun in my opinion but its 1 of those guns you either love or hate and as for a pistol training course i recomend you check out the live course via spyescapeandevasion.com i think thats the name just google jason hanson youll find it and its the best course i have thus far found

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    Hummm... concealed carry with a option for recreational shooting on the range and it should be a gun that is not outdated in the future.

    Interesting task.

    So in this case all the cheaper little guns fly just out the window. A M&P shield or similar is just no gun for shooting range fun on the long run.

    It depends also how you have to conceal. Me for example with a office clothes set up feel comfy with a smaller gun like the M&P shield. If you can wear a different gun fine. But like I said it has to be considered witch clothes conceal the weapon.

    Future:
    Looking into my glass bowl, the people will buy guns without any safety. That is every ones own decision to make. But I will point out that besides the Glock snobs are a lot of people out there that still looking for a external safety.
    I'll think that both is the truth. An external safety is not necessarily safer than a gun without external safety.
    A Walther PPX for example carried with a round in the chamber and no external safety is asking for trouble. A SigSauer P250 without external safety I would carry any given day all day long.

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    1. What caliber is ideal for edc?
    That's easy. The round that you comfortable with. I would not go under a 9X19 but other than that, what ever you feel suits you.
    I carry the 9mm Luger in 124 XTP because of weight issues. You have to consider to carry that extra weight all day long on your belt. Just saying. Others feel comfy with a heavy alu framed Taurus 45 and 15 rounds on it and have often a second clip on the belt. It's your decision to make. Others carry a full sized 1911 in 45 on the belt. It is not only a caliber question, it is a weight question too. At least for me because I carry every day. Being not able to carry open is different. Carrying a gun concealed is a question of ounces.
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    2. Caliber for self-defense?
    Is there a difference in your mind of edc ammo and the ones that you plan to defend yourself with? How would you do that?
    Or do you mean what bullet style you should carry? Its also a decision for you to make. I'll think there are a lot of rounds out there that get the job done. I like the XTP round for self defense.

    The guns that I recommend?
    I would look into the SigSauer P250. I my opinion a great edc gun specially for beginners with a lot of potential to add some money in the aftermarket to it.
    The gun would make fun to shoot on many range trips without getting tired of it.

    The second would be the H&K P30 SK. I would prefer that gun. You should check it out for yourself. May be go to a range and rent a gun for some rounds to shoot with it. But the P30 SK is definitely a gun for the future that have the capability to spend a fortune on aftermarket parts that some people believe they need it because it looks cool on the range.

    You could look into a Glock but I'll think that's a bread and butter gun without any features. Made cheap for governments to buy it in bulk. In Europe all the police is federal employed (yes even the village cops), so the feds buying that Glocks in bulks like their ammo too. It's a bear brick with a marvelous retail marketing. Than better looking into Walther and Smith&Wessons. Just my private opinion. For me that are low budget guns anyway for people that wouldn't or can't afford the 100 Dollars more for a real Sig or H&K. But they get the job done without real excitement.

    My 5 cents

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    All of the XD variants are good quality handguns with an easy learning curve. Be safe.
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    Go to a gun store with a range and try the weapons you are interested in. Try a model 1911 in .45... Try a Sig P238 (a .380) They both have safeties... nice guns

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    since you like 9mm and want edc I suggesta single stack striker fired gun

    walther ccp

    SA xds

    glock 43( if you have small hands)

    or a nice revolver

    if you want a bigger gun (double stack)glock 19, h+k vp9 walther ppq--all high on my list for carry and love them on the range too

    good luck choosing

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    I just picked up a Springfield XD 9 Sub Compact Mod 2. IT comes with two mags, one holds 13 and the other holds 16. I plan to carry concealed as well and this seems to fit the bill very nicely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JFS811 View Post
    I just picked up a Springfield XD 9 Sub Compact Mod 2. IT comes with two mags, one holds 13 and the other holds 16. I plan to carry concealed as well and this seems to fit the bill very nicely.
    Springfield did a good job on this "next gen" XD subcompact. Nice and useful machining refinements to the slide especially.

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