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so lets say that i have $300 in my hands right now.... and i want to buy a handgun. i am willing to go a little bit more then that but not too much.
all i know about guns is that when i pull the trigger they go boom and it makes me happy.
im pretty sure i dont want a revolver, and in fact im not even sure how far 300 bones will get me. i am looking for a gun that would be fun to shoot with the dudes and could also kill anybody sneaking into my house.
any suggestions?
By what, and how you describe your situation, especially the part about when I pull the trigger, they go boom.............I would get a slingshot for about $10, and keep the rest of your money for some type of training.....knowledge is power.......
Toss in another $50 and you can get a Law Enforcment trade in Glock. As for the killing anybody that snuck into your house....
1: Handguns of any caliber are crappy performers when it comes to "stopping power" but any "service caliber" (9mm, .40S&W, .45ACP) will work well enough provided you put the bullet where it needs to go. Given the $300 budget, I would suggest 9mm as the ammo is less costly than ther other alternatives. If your first concern is home defense, you can get used shotguns all day long for $300.
2: Also, make sure you're up to date on your state's laws regarding the use of lethal force. In most states you just can't go shoot people for intruding. Not saying that's your intent, but it's how your post was worded.
New and inside the $300 mark, I'd probably opt for a Bersa in 9mm.
Taurus Millenium Pro in 9mm;
Bersa Thunder CC or Thunder 380auto;
Bersa BP CC in 9mm;
Ruger P95DC;
Used Cz or Beretta;
Ruger LC9 if possible;
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My first impression of your post said Troll,but for the sake of trying to help,what is your background with firearms?I also wonder why you want to "kill somebody sneaking into my house".That IS NOT the way it works both morally and legally.Look at the case in Florida over 'stand your ground',which is the basis of the 'caste doctrines'.This guy never read the law and understood it so he played retart mall ninja and his stupidity could have a dentrimental affect.Please be a bit more carefull with the way you word things,for your own sake, and some background would help being your first post.
I won't disagree that the OP needs to look into the legal aspects of his home state, but "stand your ground" is not the basis of castle doctrine, it's actually the other way around.Quote:
Originally Posted by rex
I apologize for the brief sojourn, but as this comes up often.
Allow me to paraphrase:
Castle doctrine is simply based on "A man's home is his castle and he may defend it" derived from English common law. Florida pioneered SYGL in 2005.
Stand Your Ground Law (SYGL) derived from castle doctrine but is not related to one's dwelling. SYGL allows one to defend themselves anywhere they happen to have a legal right to be.
Yes,thank you for correcting that VA,I had a touch of dislexia there typing.
It happens. :smt1099Quote:
Originally Posted by rex
Having lived in Fla. for a number of years the castle doctrine was a breath of fresh air, followed by the "must issue"concealed carry. Each states laws are different so a check of your state is a must. Before you purchase a handgun some training in its use and safety will be important as well. The Bersa and Ruger brand new will fit your budget and give you a warranty as well, 9mm is a good recommendation as others above have stated reducing your ammo costs.......JJ
Yes, I'm new to the whole subject, but I think that makes my opinion very relevant here. If you can't be bothered to learn about a purchase this important, don't do it. Buy a slingshot (as Berettabone suggested), or capgun (they go boom too) and keep the rest to pay the medical bills that result from hospital visits due to mishandled weapons.
Guns are lethal weapons, and should be respected accordingly.
edit: fixed some spelling errors
http://www.berettausa.com/shop-by-de...guns/air-soft/
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Sure -- learn something about guns. Search out the laws in your jurisdiction. Find out if you are even qualified to ATTEMPT to own a gun of any kind. Give a thought to what "deadly force" means. Decide if you can afford to defend yourself in a court of law after you "kill anybody sneaking into my house".Quote:
Originally Posted by FluBB
After you take some lessons, learn how to handle a weapon safely -- perhaps then you might well find something that actually will go bang for $300.00
There are a lot of responsible gun owners out here. There are a lot of responsible shooters.
What we do not need are any more "mall commandos", cop wannabes, or irresponsible folks who brandish weapons or shoot when it is not absolutely necessary.
Folks who do not know what they are doing jeopardize ALL our gun rights.
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Originally Posted by cclaxton
Where can I find these used Czs or berettas for $300? Lol, maybe I don't look hard enough but I've never seen those guns that low. But thats a really good list. As someone who bought a 300 dollar gun (sigma) two years back I wish I had saved a $100 bucks more and did more research on what i could have gotten. Put em in your hand, try to shoot as many as possible
Cz MakarovQuote:
Originally Posted by matt_the_millerman
Pistol-CZ 82 9x18mm Makarov W1112D27843 : Semi Auto Pistols at GunBroker.com
Cz 83 .380 auto
CZ Model 83 9MM Browning {.380] : Semi Auto Pistols at GunBroker.com
Used Beretta 92fs night sights.
Beretta 92FS 9mm Pistol SS w/ Night Sights : Semi Auto Pistols at GunBroker.com
I have purchased a Cz 9mm through gunbroker for under $300...don't see one right now, but keep watching....they come around.
If you are gonna shoot a lot, go for 9mm because of ammo prices. Otherwise, shooters choice.
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9mm
kel tec pf9
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$283 at Discount Guns for Sale - Buds Gun Shop
put it in a christmas fund and add to it until you get enough to buy a gun you want
Anyone want to split this thread so cclaxton isn't asking questions on a troll thread?
holy balls thats a lot of replies. no i am not a troll, i guess i should have chosen my words more carefully. i guess sarcasm isnt portrayed very well via text. so for the record, i have done some shooting, and enjoy it and want to get more involved. there have been break ins in my neighborhood and some stuff got stolen from my garage, so i feel its a good idea to get some protection. im not all uppity about shooting someone, in all actuality it would have to pretty much be a life or death situation for me to ever even consider that, and even then im not sure i would have the juevos.
thank you all for your suggestions, those that made them. i have a paintball gun so i dont need to buy a slingshot or a airsoft gun. thanks for the thoughtfulness.
If you are actually serious, do some reading, go check out a dealer and see what appeals to you and feels comfortable to hold. Educate your self about the self defense laws in your state/city. Decide if you are going to carry or leave it at home between range sessions. If you are going to carry, check with your local sheriff office or police station about any permit that may be required. Make sure you know the laws that apply to carrying or transporting.
Edit: You might want to consider investing in some good door and window hardware and locks. Dead bolts on all the exterior doors, a latch on the inside of the garage door, and whatever hardware that allows you to lock windows into one position. As long as you don't leave the window fully open enough for someone to slip through you should be fine. Just be sure to take into consider the fact that there is a good chance that the burglar is a addict, which tend to be overly skinny from the drugs and that they just don't act right.
Also, especially with first posts, it is better to be serious and only toss in a bit of sarcasm where it is very obvious. A post entirely based on sarcasm is never going to be useful anyone.
Your second post was much more useful to everyone. The first was great for everyone to exercise their sarcasm skills though.
Doesn't sound like you're very discerning.
Just lock you doors at night and save the money. :mrgreen:
Looking for a question that I asked....don't see one. I can ask one if you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by NewinSD
I am not convinced this is a troll thread.
FluBB seems to me to just have a unique way of asking the question.
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Yeah, he seamed to redeem himself somewhat well.
Sorry, it was matt. I guess I had my screen open to the bottom of that post and top of yours. I must've just kinda stuck the two together in my head.
Another one I forgot to list is Hi-Point pistols...they are closer to $200. I have heard good things from owners of the Hi-points. My issue with them is the weight...low recoil, though.
RE: Kel-Tec's- They are cheap, reliable and fairly accurate, but I personally think they have horrible triggers and are difficult to pull the slide because of strong springs. Also, because of lightweight, they have quite a kick.
I would go for the Millenium Pro....very nice trigger, 10+1 9mm rounds, small enough to carry easily. Only issue is you have to learn to shoot it accurately...it will take some practice.
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