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    BearArms2:
    Holding a gun at the store is nothing like shooting it at the range. Find a gun range near you (or further out if you have to), that rents a wide variety of guns. Spend some money testing out a wide variety of handguns...try the Beretta, Glock, Sig, M&P, HK, 1911, and my favorite...a Cz 75. Figure out whether you want a DA/SA or striker-fired gun, and then how you want to use the gun: carrying it concealed or home defense or just shooting at the range or competition.

    Then, start looking at things like trigger: Do you want a long, constant trigger, or a quick, short trigger? (One is obviously safer, the other quicker).

    Also, take into account how much training you expect to complete. If you plan on a minimum amount of training, then get an easier to operate gun with a long, constant trigger. If you expect to do a lot of training, you will want a gun with short, light trigger and maybe a manual safety.

    But it all starts with going to the range and renting and trying as many guns as you can afford to try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Couch Potato View Post
    Rather than concern over holding value consider which one you would never want to give up. Not that you won't want another gun someday, but there is no shame in having two.Try them out. When I did I bought a Beretta, but you might prefer a Glock. As much as anything you need to be comfortable holding and firing the gun.
    I think it would be a very rare bird indeed that bought and kept his very first weapon. Buying a gun is not a marriage. You can trade it in and usually get a decent price for the used weapon. So the O.P. should do his homework but should not beat himself up with it. Narrow it down to the 2 or 3 weapons that read like they'd be fine and handle them. If you use it for 6 months and are not happy with it, trade it in. I think most of us have gone through many different weapons over the years.

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    Sig, FN, Beretta had US factories or agreed to US manufacture, can't speak to other competitors...Good advice to try and shoot some of those you are interested in at the range and decide. The fact that this first choice and other handguns will likely be in your future is as well.. JJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by BearArms2 View Post
    My understanding is that Beretta's were made in italy, though now will be made in the US. Glocks are from Austria. S&W is from the USA. FN is from Belgium. And Taurus is from Brazil.

    do I have all of that correct? S&W is the only american made gun (other than the newest Beretta's??
    Yep. Sig was imported by SACO which was the only other pistol manufacturer to pass in the trials other than Beretta. Beretta did have the advantage of a US based manufacturing plant which was up and running and could and did deliver, a major plus. The French likewise had trials with the SiG 226 and Beretta 92G in which Beretta likewise won that contract. S&W was considered to be the only U.S. manufacturer at the time and filed suit claiming they had been unfairly denied consideration for the contract. But to say foreign made pistols were not allowed to compete is false.

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    Try learning to comprehend what you read..I stated I did not believe that foreign makers were allowed to compete, never stated I knew this as actual fact and my wording made that clear......and the two I mentioned were Glock and Taurus....JJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by chessail77 View Post
    Navy Seal Teams who could have any pistol they want, chose and use the Sig P226, the US Army bought over 5000 SP2022 in 9mm for use by tankers, Air Marshall Service uses Sig P series as does the U.S. Secret Service. Army is currently testing and looking for a replacement for the Berettas which are now due to be phased out but I believe gave them good service over the years. Rumor has it that S&W has the lead in the competition, but that is just not fact based. When the Beretta was chosen I remember reading the Sig P226 actually won the competition but was too costly....Beretta was next and part of the deal was they agreed to manufacture them in the USA, I don't believe foreign made pistols were allowed to compete ie Glock, Taurus Etc.......JJ
    what source or link can you provide that the army is presently testing a new firearm?
    this was tried and stopped about 3-4 yrs ago and i have not heard it was started again
    with budget constraints i really wonder if they are seriously thinking about a new sidearm

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    Quote Originally Posted by chessail77 View Post
    Navy Seal Teams who could have any pistol they want, chose and use the Sig P226, the US Army bought over 5000 SP2022 in 9mm for use by tankers, Air Marshall Service uses Sig P series as does the U.S. Secret Service. Army is currently testing and looking for a replacement for the Berettas which are now due to be phased out but I believe gave them good service over the years. Rumor has it that S&W has the lead in the competition, but that is just not fact based. When the Beretta was chosen I remember reading the Sig P226 actually won the competition but was too costly....Beretta was next and part of the deal was they agreed to manufacture them in the USA, I don't believe foreign made pistols were allowed to compete ie Glock, Taurus Etc.......JJ
    yes Sig226 won the competition but the second part of the contract was the maintenance/service agreement - that was the part that made Sig loose the contract
    others were not prohibited - what the Govt does is issue specs as to what they want - for example exposed hammer etc etc and if you win the contract then they have to be made in the USA - thus several manufacturers didn't enter the competition due to the SPECS the military issued

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    to answer your initial question
    i would trust all the manufacturers you mentioned except Taurus
    and you didn't mention Ruger which is made in USA and is a fine weapon

    choosing a 9mm pistol is one of the hardest decisions to do because there are so many

    so it gets to feel in your hand - they are all different and you have to hold and shoot them to be really comfortable with your choice

    you also didn't mention CCW - thank goodness- cause that is a whole different set of gun configurations/considerations

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    Quote Originally Posted by hideit View Post
    and you didn't mention Ruger which is made in USA and is a fine weapon
    which Ruger(s) would you add to the list in this price range, of good quality and of 9mm? I will surely enjoy researching those that you list, as long as they are reliable and accurate...thank you!!!

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    The Ruger SR9 Is a real nice 9mm weapon for under or around 450 bucks. A lot has been said about them, the trigger is grityty somewhat but can be fixed by Ghost products for 30 bucks. I own a couple and have put the Ghost trigger in both. I shoot them very well.

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    Do you have any thoughts or an opinion on a Certified Pre Owned Sig?? If you have favorable things to say -- would you rather a 220 or 226 (for a similar price...or will they be different prices by quite a bit??) I was doing some research and they sound good....and the price drops....but maybe something like a Beretta or Glock brand new is the better way for me to go -- any thoughts/ideas?? Thank you!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BearArms2 View Post
    Hello, I am in the market for buying a 9mm handgun. I have gone target shooting with my dad at random times since i was about 18 or 19 and now I am living with my girlfriend and would enjoy taking lessons on how to become a better shot. So this gun would not only need to be accurate for the range, but also reliable for home protection (those are my 2 main reasons for this purchase).
    I was told by a local business man that i respect, that a 9mm is great for a beginner like me and for the two main reasons I am looking to buy a guy. Of the items he had in his store, he suggested a few -- and I was hoping to get some help on this forum to help me distinguish between the 5 options and select the best one for me.
    He had the Taurus PT 92, FN FNX-9, Beretta 92, S&W M&P 40 and the Glock Gen 4.
    While price surely doesnt hurt things (the Taurus being the cheapest of the 5 he suggested), i would only use that if all other things were equal....these all fall into my general price range for what he was asking. I need the gun to be safe and reliable. Something that is good for me to practice with but also something I can use at home if I ever find myself in the situation where I would need to defend my home.
    If anyone can offer some help, reviews, tips, suggestions, comments, etc on any or all of these guns listed, i would very much appreciate it -- and I thank you in advance for even reading this lengthy post. Have a wonderful day!
    Well, if you are not going to carry it on a daily basis and use it primarily for "home defense", then I would go with the Beretta 92

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