taurus pt100 is .40cal, adjustable sights, double stacked
Assuming I will be living in a state that will allow me the option of choosing what I want to carry, where should I begin my search based on the following info?
I know this is a lot of info, but hopefully it will make it easier to answer than the generic "What gun is the best CCW?" type questions.
- 5'10" with large frame
- IWB/OWB not an option (have a hard enough time finding pants considering I need a lot more room in the legs than my waist size allows)
- .40S&W or .45ACP or .45GAP only
- Prefer double-stacked mags for capacity
- Average-sized hands, but large palm area with shorter fingers
- Weight not an issue for me; I'm a rarity, as I want to know it's there (you should feel how heavy my watch, pen, etc are.)
- Not opposed to polymer (Glock, XD/XD(M), etc)
- I shoot lefty (left-eye dominant) but prefer shooting with right-handed guns/rifles (just habit from having no choice in the Corps)
- Willing to pay up to $1,500 for the gun alone
Thank you all for your time!
Last edited by MuckFassachusetts; 07-20-2011 at 12:41 PM. Reason: Added bullet point
taurus pt100 is .40cal, adjustable sights, double stacked
Bought a HK USP COMPACT 9mm for ccw yesterday but you say you want a full size handgun which is funny because I noticed something. My Glock 17 was much lighter then the USP-C. I suggest Glock 22 or 21 (since you want only .40 or .45) if you have or get a good holster. Have fun lugging around a full sized handgun tho, your either a badass or going to be tired as hell
With your budget there are far more reliable guns than a Taurus.
The Taurus PT 100 or Beretta 92 have a decocker that is also a safety and is easily slipped to the safe position while fighting or clearing or charging the pistol and then when you pull the trigger it won't go bang. Surprise! I'm fond of the SIG P series of pistols. The P226 is available in 40 S&W. You can get it with night sights and be under $1000.00. Have the custom shop slick up the trigger for another few dollars or just go for the Enhanced Elite model. Check it out.
i have a pt 92 af with well over 20k rounds, have had never had a failure of ANY kind, ever....
i have a pt 100 with over 15k rounds thru, 4 stovepipes, all in the first week, all because i limp wristed it....
i have a pt 22 with a little under 3k rounds thru it and have had about 6-8 failure to feeds all with soft nose ammo....
is this the definition of unreliable?
I have carried all sizes of pistols for years and have found it fairly easy to conceal a full size pistol and I'm 5' 10" and 205 pounds and am not a bad ass anymore because I am trapped in this wrinkly old body. I carry a Glock 35 in 357 SIG or a SIG P220 or a SIG P226 because they are fighting pistols and you can aquire targets at some very respectable distances with them. I shoot out to 300 yards regularly just for entertainment ( I was a long range handgun silhouette shooter so I still play). Learn how to dress and how not to twist or bend so you "print" the weapon. It's all a learning process.
i thought posts about bb guns and air soft were supposed to be posted in the spring/air/co2 section of our forum?
I am a 9mm and .380 guy, but here is my list of .40's I would consider. I don't care for the striker-fired, and don't like Glock's, so I put Walther in for strikers:
Cz P-06: Alloy Frame, 10 Rounds, Great Trigger, Fits like a glove, DA/SA, Light Rail, Safety
Cz P-07 Duty: Polymer, 14 Rounds, Accurate, Great Trigger, DA/SA, Light Rail, Safety
P229 Platinum Elite, 12 Rounds, E29R-40-PSE, Short Reset Trigger, DA/SA, Decocker
FNX-40 Stainless, 14 Rounds, DA/SA, Polymer Frame, Great Trigger, 24 Oz lightweight fullsize gun.
Beretta PX4 Storm Full Size, 14 Rounds, DA/SA, Low Recoil, Accurate, Decocker/Safety
Cz SP-01 Tactical, 12 Rounds, Competition accuracy, Long Barrel, DA/Sa, Rail, 8 Inch Length.
Sig P226 Elite Stainless, 12 Rounds, E26R-40-SSE, Wood Grips, Short Reset Trigger, DA/SA, Heavier than average.
Walther PPQ, 12/14 Rounds, Striker-Half Cock, Fast trigger short reset, Accurate.
Walther P99QA, 12 Rounds, Striker-HalfCock, Fast Trigger, Accurate.
As to carrying a full-size and getting tired, that won't be an issue. I'm used to carrying 100 oz of water on my back all day, so having a handgun and some mags won't hurt me.
Striker-fired guns don't allow you to dry-fire the gun in order to build up good muscle memory and practice without racking the slide. With DA/SA and most DAO guns, every time I pull the trigger, the hammer falls.
In fact, I think the first criteria for choosing a gun is the type of action you want. It makes a big difference in how you operate the firearm and how you practice and how your finger learns to pull the trigger. Also, be careful, even firearms labelled DAO don't have "double strike" capability. Double strike means that after you pull the trigger once, you can pull the trigger again and the hammer will fall. This is also important when a round fails to fire, otherwise you have to eject the round.
I prefer DA/Sa guns for this reason...but I do own one striker fired gun, the Kahr PM9 and I tolerate the striker because I like everything else about the gun: size, accuracy, trigger pull, looks, etc.
The best thing to do is to go to a few ranges and shoot different types of guns and go to gun shows and hold and dry fire as many as you can. You may look for guns that have changeable backstraps for sizing, etc.
Also, the guns I listed for you are very reliable. Reliability is a critical feature. I didnt list Taurus for that reason. I left Ruger off the list, but Ruger is very reliable as well. Your price range was on the higher end and Ruger is more affordable, but you may want to start with a cheaper gun to see what you do and don't llike about it.
And, I know you said weight is not that important, but I find that it is important when you carry. You have to get a really great holster to match your gun, and it is going to hang on something...your belt, your pocket, your pants, etc. Gravity will be a factor...You may have to tighten your pants more for a heavier gun to keep it from pull your pants down...just sayin.
The reliability of glocks are outstanding... Why anyone would dislike a glock is beyond me...
Yes, just anecdotal evidence. I didn't come to this forum thinking I knew everything or that my experiences could be used as the bench mark for everything. I spend much more time reading than I do typing. During my time reading I noticed an extraordinary number of people, who have personal experience, complaining about their Taurus brand firearm. More than any other regularly mentioned brand. The number of quality and reliability complaints about Taurus are only matched by the number of complaints about their customer care which compounds the low quality problem. These observations have caused me to choose not to have any personal experience with a brand with such a poor reputation. When a new member suggests to another new member to buy a Taurus when there is a $1500 budget available, I will post something in an attempt to encourage the future buyer to do some research before making a decision as this subject has been discussed numerous times. If that is not acceptable to you Mr. Ted, well, I really don't care.
A few friends of mine were all getting Taurus Pistols (due to the M9 beretta copy design they love and the price) I TOLD THEM NOT TO!!!! When we went to the range together I laugh at the number of their malfunctions while my guns fire every time... Since then one of the three has traded for a Springfield XD while the other two have kept their "sissy nickle plated pistols" hahaha
while i may be new here, i am not new to guns, having owned a small gun shop in central california in the late 80s i got to play with more than a few of the guns in that era.... not that it translates to many of todays modern polyguns , so i do look for personal knowledge of reliability ..... with what i have read it seems that the taurus reputation has dropped and yet the reputation of george kelgren has improved, his grendels were a gun i regretted selling and yet his keltechs have a growing fan base.....
i wasnt trying to insult you, just trying to see where the info and opinion were coming from
Sorry for the misunderstanding. Internet communication can sometimes require more effort to ensure the message is received as intended. I have been on both ends of it more than once.
and for the record (there is a permanent record right?)
i will only ever recommend an item that i personally have used AND will continue to do so.... (be it guns, cigars, motorcycles .... whatever)
and if i do recommend them, i always try for full disclosure of any faults i find....
and lastly, i reserve the right to talk trash about ANYTHING i own or owned that was a piece of crap, but again, just the individual piece of crap that was mine (my 74 super glide, my lorcin .380, my davis .22 derringer, my ex wives)
I would stay away from .45 GAP, as the ammo is higher priced, harder to find and is not any better than .45 ACP. I prefer the .45 ACP to .40 S&W, but you will need to see what you prefer. The recoil of a .45 ACP is more of a push vs. the .40 S&W which is snappier.
I would buy two handguns. One in .22 Long Rifle and one in centerfire. For centerfire, I like (not in any particular order) Springfield XD or XDm, H&K USP, and Sig best. Ruger, CZ, Bersa, Beretta, Browning and FN make some decent ones too. Make sure they fit your hand well.