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    Quote Originally Posted by SMann View Post
    During my time reading I noticed an extraordinary number of people, who have personal experience, complaining about their Taurus brand firearm. More than any other regularly mentioned brand. The number of quality and reliability complaints about Taurus are only matched by the number of complaints about their customer care which compounds the low quality problem. These observations have caused me to choose not to have any personal experience with a brand with such a poor reputation.
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    A few friends of mine were all getting Taurus Pistols (due to the M9 beretta copy design they love and the price) I TOLD THEM NOT TO!!!! When we went to the range together I laugh at the number of their malfunctions while my guns fire every time... Since then one of the three has traded for a Springfield XD while the other two have kept their "sissy nickle plated pistols" hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMann View Post
    When a new member suggests to another new member to buy a Taurus when there is a $1500 budget available, I will post something in an attempt to encourage the future buyer to do some research before making a decision as this subject has been discussed numerous times. If that is not acceptable to you Mr. Ted, well, I really don't care.
    first, i didnt suggest he buy a taurus, i did suggest that the pt 100 fit his criteria and coupled with his familiarity with the m9 that it might be a good choice..... (owning one , i would recommend it if asked) i was just trying to find out if your feelings about taurus were a result of personal experience or from the stories of others..... nothing was implied, and it doesnt have to be acceptable to me....

    while i may be new here, i am not new to guns, having owned a small gun shop in central california in the late 80s i got to play with more than a few of the guns in that era.... not that it translates to many of todays modern polyguns , so i do look for personal knowledge of reliability ..... with what i have read it seems that the taurus reputation has dropped and yet the reputation of george kelgren has improved, his grendels were a gun i regretted selling and yet his keltechs have a growing fan base.....

    i wasnt trying to insult you, just trying to see where the info and opinion were coming from

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    Sorry for the misunderstanding. Internet communication can sometimes require more effort to ensure the message is received as intended. I have been on both ends of it more than once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMann View Post
    Sorry for the misunderstanding. Internet communication can sometimes require more effort to ensure the message is received as intended. I have been on both ends of it more than once.
    not a problem.... and to be honest, i am sure i will eventually stir up some sh!t here, but i prefer to do it intentionally ... LOL...

    and for the record (there is a permanent record right?)

    i will only ever recommend an item that i personally have used AND will continue to do so.... (be it guns, cigars, motorcycles .... whatever)

    and if i do recommend them, i always try for full disclosure of any faults i find....

    and lastly, i reserve the right to talk trash about ANYTHING i own or owned that was a piece of crap, but again, just the individual piece of crap that was mine (my 74 super glide, my lorcin .380, my davis .22 derringer, my ex wives)

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    I would stay away from .45 GAP, as the ammo is higher priced, harder to find and is not any better than .45 ACP. I prefer the .45 ACP to .40 S&W, but you will need to see what you prefer. The recoil of a .45 ACP is more of a push vs. the .40 S&W which is snappier.

    I would buy two handguns. One in .22 Long Rifle and one in centerfire. For centerfire, I like (not in any particular order) Springfield XD or XDm, H&K USP, and Sig best. Ruger, CZ, Bersa, Beretta, Browning and FN make some decent ones too. Make sure they fit your hand well.

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    Thank you for all the responses, guys. I've definitely got a good starting point. I'm going to go handle some over the next few weeks and see if I can narrow things down the to three or so that fit my hand best and just feel right to me. I'll rent those and try the different calibers available.

    I'll certainly report back on another thread to share what I've found works for me.

    And by all means, keep posting to this thread; I'm an information junkie.

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    Just a little update...

    Looks like I will be going for the Sig P220 Carry despite the low capacity compared to some others. I really prefer to have a .45ACP at my disposal, and the P220 Carry seems just about perfect for me. I've done a lot of research, and even listened to people present the "shot placement" case as it pertains to 9mm. FWIW, 9mm is a great round if you are at 100% capacity and are able to but rounds exactly where you want them. However, I know that I can put someone down more reliably with .45 even with less than ideal shot placement, so that wins for me. Not to mention, if I have to draw on someone, there's something about looking down the barrel o f a larger caliber handgun that makes some people think twice.

    As an aside, I'll be going with a Glock 21 for a "nightstand gun". If I'm woken up from a deep sleep to find that I need to grab my weapon, I need a simple "point-and-click" system that will fire reliably.

    Thanks again for all your suggestions. There are lot of guns listed that will end up in my "inventory" at some point.

    Happy shooting!

    Josh

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