View Poll Results: Which Handgun?

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  • Sig Sauer P239

    8 20.00%
  • Beretta PX4

    8 20.00%
  • Glock 17

    5 12.50%
  • Other

    19 47.50%
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  1. #21
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    Whatever you are comfortable with, don't let name or color or style affect your decision. Also don't let caliber make your desicion. If it fits and feels good, carry it. Your most accurate shot will be with the most comfortable you shoot. Two shots from a .22 lr. well placed is better than a mag of .45 limp wristed.

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    Wink Purchase Made!!! Browning Buckmark URX Standard

    First, thank all of you for your input. It was a REAL help!

    My final decision was to go with the Browning Buckmark URX Standard .22 caliber. My decision was based on cost of ammunition, ease of use, accuracy, low recoil, and most importantly comfort for my hand and comfort firing. After shooting .45 (WAY too much firepower), .40 (too big), 9 mm (loved the Springfield XDM), and .22 LR, I had my decision. I also bought a basic .22 cleaning kit, a bore-snake, a Hiviz Buck Mark Pistol Sight , an AAdco STJR Super Thumb Jr. Speedloader, and pair of Caldwell Electronic Ear Muffs.

    I've shot a total of 725 rounds (CCI Blazer and American Eagle round heads?) through it, and I'm super happy.

    Cost Analysis
    Cost of firing 725 rounds: $58.73!
    compared to if I had bought a larger gun:
    Cost of firing 725 rounds 9mm: $217.50
    Cost of firing 725 rounds .45: $282.75

    I feel like after shooting this many rounds, in a stressed situation, I could place 10 shots into the thoracic cavity missing, at 15-20 feet, within 15 seconds. I think for me, with a 9mm or higher, the sound of the first shot (I WON'T be wearing ear protection), and recoil would make time to reset too long, and I'd end up shooting up the wall, and through to my neighbor!

    With a simple CCI Blazer round, it won't be as loud, recoil is VERY low, and it's more like shooting a BB gun. So, for self-defense, IMHO, a .22 caliber is just fine in a close quarter situation. I don't buy the "what if the guy's on crack (or angel dust, or LSD)" argument for bigger guns, enough holes in a body, and the guy will stop moving, period. And if I've reach a point where I've actually had to push a full magazine into my gun, flip the safety, cock it, and take aim, then that means my life or my family's life is in mortal danger, and then I ain't gonna stop 'til the clip is empty. If he's still moving after that, he gets my S&W boot knife in the neck. If that does't work, well then I guess I'm screwed...

    One drawback I have at this point is it fails to autoload every 50 rounds or so.* A minor mention is that it weighs a lot (2lbs+), although this helps to stabilize the gun when resetting. Other than that, I am very happy with the purchase.

    At $4.05 a box for 50, I can shoot all day. However, I'm wondering if the subsonic rounds just aren't powerful enough to make the gun feed reliably. CCI's are awesome, but it's $1.00 more a box, so I want to be sure.

    I'm also looking for a video specific to cleaning this particular gun. Lots of debate out there...




    *The previous casing doesn't get ejected properly, and gets stuck in the breach, causing the slide to get stuck partially opn. I have pull the slide back, let the round drop, then if the next round is visible and in position, let the slide snap shut, pushing in the next round. Also, sometimes the next round simply does not pop into the chamber from the magazine. I pull the slide back, and I can see the round stuck in the magazine. Sometimes, it'll pop back into place while I'm inspecting it, and other times I need to remove and reseat the magazine. Around when this happens, the trigger pull is harder. I clean it after every trip to the range, so I'm wondering if it's cheap ammo...(American Eagle, not CCI) Any ideas?

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    External safety or not, It's a matter of personal preference. With proper fundamentals, most any shooter can become proficient with most any platform. Some folks prefer a gun be made safe for them, others don't have any problem flicking a safety off/on. Regardless of your preference, proficiency is the key. Try lots of different platforms, THEN decide. The 1911 platform hasn't been around for over 100 years because it's a poor design.

    Best safety out there is between the ears....

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    First and foremost i'm a Sig guy. I'll just throw that out there now and get it out of the way. I've owned about 20 different guns over the years by about a dozen different mfg's. I bought my first Sig 3 yrs ago and I finally know what all they hype is all about. I've owned the P229 and currently own a P226. Both have been fantastic. For someone with small hands the P239 is a great choice. If my hands were smaller I'd buy one in a heart beat. I've shot 3 different 239's the last being the SAS GEN 2 and was impressed with each one. I understand your want for the decocker. I've had it on both of my Sig's and I like it. That being said you should never assume it will work every time and always have the gun pointed in a safe direction when decocking. As for other safety's there really isn't one other than the one between your ears. That said I feel completely safe carrying my 226 with one in the pipe. The first pull is a long DA pull and every other shot after that is SA only with a very short pull and a crisp break point. The P239 is exactly the same.

    The other guns I'm going to recommend are the Ruger LC9 and SR9C. Both are designed for carry so they are fairly small and fit smaller hands. I have an LCP that my GF carries and it's been great. Trigger could be better but it's accurate and dead reliable. I've have been considering either an LC9 or SR9C for my next gun for a very long time. After shooting both I think I'm going with the SR9C.

    I will mention like others have that shooting center fire ammo does get expensive. You certainly want to put 50/100 rounds through your primary gun every time you go to the range but a good .22lr is almost a must. I have a S&W model 22A and I love it. I've got close to 4000 rounds through it and it runs great. Sure you get the occasional Fail to feed but all .22 autos do that from time to time and it only happens every couple hundred rounds. My last range session was with a couple of ladies from work. They love to shoot the .22 and between the two of them went through a full bulk box of 525 rounds in about 3 hrs. We had 3 or 4 FTF's in all that shooting and the gun was super dirty at the end. The 22A is also about the simplest gun i've seen to tear down so cleaning it is a no brainer.

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    I think the Walther PK380 would be a good choice for someone with smallish sized mits.

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    If you are happy with your .22 good one you. My friend told me taking 10 shots with a .22 is like getting stabbed in the chest with a phillips screw driver 10 times. I told him getting shot 1 time in the chest once with a .45 is like getting shot with a 9mm one time only harder.

    Enjoy your handgun be safe with it. I hope it is the first of many for you.

    RCG

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    Just curious, but what did your friend do to get shot ten times with a .22? While I'm being curious, how did you manage to get shot in the chest with a .45 ?

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    He was holding a target at a rifle range and instead of holding it off to the side like we told him too he taped it to his shoulders............I know right.......

    I just was at a 7 - 11 minding my own business in Detroit and next thing I know........................I didn't even get to pay for my Slurpie, real pizzed me off.

    Satisfy your curiousity?

    RCG

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    hope yer luck changes

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    I am with johna9137 on this one. I would recommend the Ruger SR9 or SR9c or the Sig 239. If you are not opposed to buying a used handgun, then you might consider a Sig P225, Sig P6, or a S&W 3913 (some variations called the Ladysmith), or a S&W 3914. The Sigs and S&Ws are single-stack 9mm and should accomodate small hands. All are excellent handguns.

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