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    Personally, I wouldn't even try to gain ownership in this situation. Unload it, and turn it over. That's just me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kitty View Post
    I have 3 emails from me to him regarding the gun. All 3 with return receipts that prove he received/opened them. 2 w/replies that he'd get it when he came back. 3rd one, no reply. I'm in the legal profession as well so knew I had to cover my ass with this from the get go.

    Not sure about FL laws yet.
    That's really smart. A lot of people don't think like that and then they get spanked in civil court. With a firearm I could see all kinds of complications so I thought to ask. I'd check with a lawyer or something to see how long is a "reasonable amount of time"
    in your state. You left a paper trail trying to get him to get it. After that time limit lapses it's abandoned property. Take a safety course and enjoy your new to you weapon

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeefyBeefo View Post
    Personally, I wouldn't even try to gain ownership in this situation. Unload it, and turn it over. That's just me...
    I'm with Beefy there. Get the gun out of there and be done with it and the guy who left a loaded gun around you and your kids. If you do want a gun of your own, we'll be more than happy to point you in the right direction for brands, calibers, and even classes to take.

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    Todd, your Awesome with the YouTube! I plan on giving him a bit longer to do the responsible thing himself (say 30 days past my last inquiry-more than fair) then I'll turn it over.

    I haven't shot hand guns since I was a teenager with my Dad back in the fields behind our house. I live in a city now so would have to go to a range. I've thought about taking it up as a hobby for years but just never did.

    Meeting all you guys has motivated me to finally do it!!! I'm gonna sign up for the next wkd course. Hopefully, its like riding a bike. I'll be back for your thoughts and advice on what gun may be best for me.

    Again, I'd like to say how impressed I am at all your eagerness to help and educate me.

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    That's great to hear, kitty. You've definitely come to the right place.

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    Good gun owners help our cause. THe more safe and responsible gun owners the less ammo the press and politicians have to take away a right that we hold dear. Plus I'm sure most all of us hate seeing the stories that come with those that never took the time to become properly educated in how to handle a weapon safe and in a responsible way. No need for the good guys to get hurt. That's for paper targets and God forbid the bad people.

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    No offense was intended by the previous post. It has been removed and I have left the forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doggydoc View Post
    The people on here who are urging you to turn it over to the police are expressing an unspoken concern that it may have been used to commit a crime;
    Uhhh, no. I was one of the people who suggested to turn it over and I was in no way expressing that it was used in a crime; spoken or not. If I had thought it, I would have said it. I'm not going to speak for the rest of the guys, they can do that on their own, but unless you were sitting here at my PC discussing the topic with me while I typed, don't start telling people what I was trying to say; I can do that all on my own.

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    Kitty, hi:

    I would suggest strongly that you contact your local PD immediately, and turn the gun in and tell them the story... You have to detach yourself from that responsibility. Don't be tempted to keep the gun, it is not worth the risk. You can buy an equivalent gun for around $500 and practice proper gun ownership and safety and enjoy shooting as much as you want.. Again I advice you as not to be tempted to keep the gun for whatever reason, you already covered yourself with the emails that it is his gun and that you don't have anything with it. Don't take any more chances that you really don not need.

    The guys in this forum are great, and they provided you with safety tips and guided you so you can unload the gun as a first precaution to take.. And everybody here advised you to turn in the gun to the local PD..So what are you waiting for. From there on, you are responsible for your actions. Do yourself a big favor and turn the gun in ASAP. Take the gun safety course and buy your gun legally and enjoy practicing your gun onwership and shooting sports. Good luck...!!

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    Ummmm..A crime? No, I didn't read that anywhere in this thread. What it does more than likely have is a paper trail to the LEO that in his infinite wisdom left it behind. For that reason it might be best to let it go. the OP posted that she had evidence of attempts that she has tried to get the weapon back it it's owner and may well have a right to keep it or give it to LE to get it out of the house.

    Being it is a cops weapon (apparently not a duty weapon) to think it was used in as crime is the last thing anyone would think. What it appears is hat people were trying to give informed advice so the OP doesn't end up in any trouble no matter what was chosen to be the fate of the weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doggydoc View Post
    No offense was intended by the previous post. It has been removed and I have left the forum.
    No reason to leave the entire forum. People just like to do their own talking, not have a third party say what they meant; especially when that's not what they meant.

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    Talking Don't mess with Joe!,,aahhhahahahaaaaaa

    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    No reason to leave the entire forum. People just like to do their own talking, not have a third party say what they meant; especially when that's not what they meant.
    Unless you are Joe Biden. He has his own personal "what he ment to say is" guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsJohnson View Post
    Unless you are Joe Biden. He has his own personal "what he ment to say is" guy

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    I understand what you guy's are saying but hate to see the young lady throw away $400 or so unnecessarily.

    The advice (good by the way) to contact her local PD is certainly sound. The point at which I differ is in telling them to dispose of it.

    If she contacts the PD there is nothing wrong with asking them about abandoned property ownership rights. She should also have them run a check to determine if it is HOT. They most likely will do so anyway. It may have been in possesion of a LEO but that does not preclude the possibility there are problems with it. No offense intended to most LEO's. They know as well as you and I that a low percentage of LEO's are not as honest as they should be.

    If everything checks out the PD should be able to give the gun back to her with confirmation they had checked it out. That would make a nice first gun for the lady. If nothing else she could trade it in on whatever she finds more suitable.

    Miss Kitty,

    Living in a big Florida city is all the justification you need to become a proficient gun owner and user. Take a class or two and join us in taking responsibility for our individual safety. If we don't nobody else will.

    PS: Have you ever lived in Dodge City?

    Good luck


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    i agree with everyone about notifying the local PD and getting their assistance in returning the gun to its legal owner. however i also agree with TOF about keeping the gun if the PD cant get its legal owner to retrieve it in a timely manner and that there are no issues with her attaining legal ownership of the gun.

    if i were in her shoes, the situation and circumstances are kinda sketchy and washing your hands clean of the gun is probably best.

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    only thing I can add, is that if it was me, Id definately get it checked out to make sure you wont get in trouble with it someday, being that it may have been stolen, used in some illegal activity or whatever. but if its clean, I say you gave him plenty of chances to get it back, and if there was I way I could legally keep it, I would certainly do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsJohnson View Post
    s.

    Does Fla require a lic to own or just carry?
    You do not need a license or permit to own a gun in Florida, but of course need a CCW to carry.

    Like any other state, when purchasing a gun, you need to go through the standard background check. If not a CCW holder, there is a mandatory waiting period depending on the county it is purchased in. There is a standard 3 working day wait, but in some counties like where I live, it is a 5 day wait.

    As far as the OP, if you are not comfortable having the gun in your house, call the local PD. They will be more than happy to retrieve it from you.

    If you do have an interest in having a firearm, take some lessons like you mentioned and hold onto it until it is claimed.

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