Originally Posted by johndl58

Went to the county court to submit my receipt and get my permit ammended

What do you mean? Is it going to be a CCW gun?

Be strong!

Sucks to live in NY...at least for the gun laws anyway.

Hearing stuff like this makes me glad I moved recently. I had lived in Mecklenburg County (Charlotte, NC) and moved to Iredell County (Mooresville, NC) in the past month. I've spoken with a couple of shops here and they told me that if I was still in Charlotte to expect 2-3 weeks to get a permit to purchase. In Iredell county I've been told I can get the permit from the sheriff's office, go to the shop and have a gun all in less than an hour!

So yes, I can see how 4 weeks would be a killer. Hope it goes quickly for you!

Not ccw. I have a target/hunting pistol license. To purchase a handgun here in NY, you must buy the pistol and then take the receipt to the county of issuance. They then submit your receipt and paperwork to the judge who then has to approve your purchase. Once approved, they send you your new license(with new pistol listed on it), and a piece of paper with the county seal stamped on it. You then take that piece of paper to whomever you purchased the handgun from, and he releases the gun to you.

4 weeks, and the judge has to approve it. Unbelievable course of events.

Could be worse. In Florida, they say 90 days to get your CCW. I am at 4 months and counting. They say another month or two because of backlog.

I am also in NY. They told me 6 weeks just to get a date to get fingerprinted and photos. Then up to another 6 months for the license to be approved AND the 4 weeks to get it on your license over 8 months

Originally Posted by johndl58

Not ccw. I have a target/hunting pistol license. To purchase a handgun here in NY, you must buy the pistol and then take the receipt to the county of issuance. They then submit your receipt and paperwork to the judge who then has to approve your purchase. Once approved, they send you your new license(with new pistol listed on it), and a piece of paper with the county seal stamped on it. You then take that piece of paper to whomever you purchased the handgun from, and he releases the gun to you.

4 weeks, and the judge has to approve it. Unbelievable course of events.

what county are you in??

Originally Posted by Red-5

Could be worse. In Florida, they say 90 days to get your CCW. I am at 4 months and counting. They say another month or two because of backlog.

thats for a ccw you can get a hand gun without a permit in 2 days

My last one took 31 days to get the amended permit back - and that was back in Sept/Oct.

Originally Posted by kev74

My last one took 31 days to get the amended permit back - and that was back in Sept/Oct.

Kev from what I have heard there is a heavy influx of people requesting permits. That has put a strain on the system. With that also people that have permits have been purchasing more guns...so to your point I think these delays are here for a while.

It would be intresting to see the sales numbers for gun and ammo companies. I wonder what the numbers look like for prior year and for year to date. It might be one of the few market segments doing well in this economy.

That Sux! I am glad we don't have to do that kind of crap in Texas. I feel for yall.

Johndl,

Between pending state legislation and the new Federal administration, the shops here in NJ can't keep guns on the shelf. Anything and everything is flying out the door, at any price. Purchase Permit applications are through the roof, and taking as long a 3 or 4 months to process. Even ammo is selling for about twice what it is in PA.

I heard someone call it the Obama/Corzine effect.

Gun sales have always been somewhat recession proof, but this is a new high.

Best of luck with your struggle.

Originally Posted by rockon

Kev from what I have heard there is a heavy influx of people requesting permits. That has put a strain on the system. With that also people that have permits have been purchasing more guns...so to your point I think these delays are here for a while.

It would be intresting to see the sales numbers for gun and ammo companies. I wonder what the numbers look like for prior year and for year to date. It might be one of the few market segments doing well in this economy.

I think, in Orange County anyway, there has been a deliberate slow down as the pace of new permit applicants has picked up. Any time I've spoken to the woman at the county pistol permit office, they've been very good about letting me know the status of my paperwork. The holdup for amendments is at the judge's desk and new permits get held up at the Sheriff's dept.

I was at a local shop today talking to one of the sales guys. He was telling me that their cost from the distributor for Colt AR-15's is what they were selling them for back in Dec/Jan ($1200-1300). There are a lot of people all along the supply line who are making a lot of money from the increase in gun sales.

My permit modifications just took me 4 days. drop off reciepts to pick up slips. And then my LGS had one more she just had to show me (and i just had to buy lol) (just added .. a few)

Originally Posted by niadhf

My permit modifications just took me 4 days. drop off reciepts to pick up slips. And then my LGS had one more she just had to show me (and i just had to buy lol) (just added .. a few)

Lucky you. Obviously you're not even remotely close to NYC. I'm in a bordering county to NYC so it takes much much longer.
The part I dont like is when the clerk tells me it(current permit and sales receipt for new gun) goes to the judge and she has to APPROVE it and send it back. That makes me nervous.

Originally Posted by johndl58

Lucky you. Obviously you're not even remotely close to NYC. I'm in a bordering county to NYC so it takes much much longer.
The part I dont like is when the clerk tells me it(current permit and sales receipt for new gun) goes to the judge and she has to APPROVE it and send it back. That makes me nervous.

I dont think it should make you nervous. As long as you are purchasing a legal gun. That is how I understand it. If you have you permit and purchase ten guns that are legal in that state then they should be approved.

The judge has to sign off on any change (amendment) to the permit, and since adding a gun is considered an amendment, it goes to the judge.

Its all part of the way the Great State of New York does things.

Originally Posted by diselthis

thats for a ccw you can get a hand gun without a permit in 2 days

Where's that? Down here it is 5 working days, weekends/holiday's not included.

God I love my Old Kentucky home. The only thing we wait on is to save the moneyto go the shop. I've bought them three at a time then went in a week later and got two more. I think I'd go nuts in a waiting state.

Texas doesn't make you wait either. They run you through NCIC while you are standing there to make sure your not a Felon or a Nutbag, ( takes about 3 minutes), if your clear you pay the man and take your weapon. If you have a concealed carry permit you show it and they skip the backround check.

Originally Posted by Semi- Auto

Texas doesn't make you wait either. They run you through NCIC while you are standing there to make sure your not a Felon or a Nutbag, ( takes about 3 minutes), if your clear you pay the man and take your weapon. If you have a concealed carry permit you show it and they skip the backround check.

Yep, you gotta love Texas, hot weather and all!!

Lets say you lay down your money for a gun submit your request and the Judge, having a bad day, declines your permit. Is the vendor required by law to refund the purchase price or can you simply be out the cost of the gun?

Originally Posted by TOF

Lets say you lay down your money for a gun submit your request and the Judge, having a bad day, declines your permit. Is the vendor required by law to refund the purchase price or can you simply be out the cost of the gun?

Most say they will refund your money if your permit is declined, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were shops out there that would either refuse to refund the price, or would hit you with a "restocking fee" or some other crap.

Funny though, NY state law doesn't address this. So much for protecting the citizens....

The really crazy part is that while you're required to buy the gun before you can get the permit, by law you're not allowed to even handle a handgun before you get your permit. So for your first gun anyway, you have to buy a gun that you might never had a chance to even pick up and hold.

Originally Posted by kev74

Most say they will refund your money if your permit is declined, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were shops out there that would either refuse to refund the price, or would hit you with a "restocking fee" or some other crap.

Funny though, NY state law doesn't address this. So much for protecting the citizens....

The really crazy part is that while you're required to buy the gun before you can get the permit, by law you're not allowed to even handle a handgun before you get your permit. So for your first gun anyway, you have to buy a gun that you might never had a chance to even pick up and hold.

Kev74, I was told at the shop last week that once you receive the letter in the mail that states you have been approved you can take that into the gun shop and then be able to handle the gun and find one that "fits"

Then the down payment.
Then to the police station.
Then the wait to be approved
the back to the shop to pick up the gun.

I am new to this so please correct me if I missunderstood. This is what I was told at the shop.