I would take the beretta over the taurus and the ruger over both.
I need your opinions on choosing the right handgun.
I have narrowed my choice down to the following three brands and in 9mm.
1. Ruger P95 (KP(95PR)
2. Taurus PT111SSP.
3. Beretta PX4 Storm.
I want something small, accurate, and easy to carry.
Some of you may have other choices then those above so please let me know that also.
I'm rather leaning towards the Taurus, but all are appealing.
Thanks for the help.
I would take the beretta over the taurus and the ruger over both.
"I need your opinions on choosing the right handgun"
what do you want it for ie CCW, home defence, 1 and 3 of your choices seem big "I want something small, accurate, and easy to carry" look at the M&P 40C or 9C I carry a M&P 40 or 9C with +P loads for ccw I'm not sure I would say ether is very small but shoot very well and for me easy to carry. They make smaller but understand I never want to have to shoot someone (in self defence) and piss them off.
yes, I want it for Home Defense and to carry. I want it reliable and easy to break down and clean. I like the Beretta, however they are a little pricey compared to the Taurus and the Ruger. but thats OK if the Beretta is the better of the three.
Thanks God your not a astronaut or a soldier, being sent into outer space or off to war with something built by the lowest bider.
All three of the manufactuers you mentioned are good (personally not a fan of Taurus but some people swear by them),,, hes not looking to hipoint or pheonix, so by no means should he knocked for sticking with his price range. You can find a high quality used gun for hundreds less than new. Glock, Sig, CZ , Beretta for well under $400.
If you want a small carry auto, then you should be looking at small autos, and not at standard-sized autos. Beretta makes the just introduced PX4Storm Compact. Walther has the PPS, and there are several Kahrs that will fit your req's. There are also compact versions of Glocks (the 26/27), XD, M&P, and Walther P99 that will also work. IMO these will be more accurate and more reliable than a PT111. Of course they should be, as they do cost more. The extra cost is worth it, if you are going to depend your life on it.
I see you are in Southern California. Check your local phone book for indoor pistol ranges and rent and shoot your choices. This will help narrow it down and give you a "real" feel for the HG before you plunk your hard earned money down.
As indicated by PhilR, if you want a small, accurate and easy to carry HG, then you need to look in the compact and subcompact models unless you are a really big person and can carry a full size service pistol comfortably.
Good luck with you search.
The M&P's are getting a lot of attention these days. They are pretty nice pistols and well worth a good look for anyone looking for a 1st gun or to add to a collection. The XD fills the bill pretty well too there are a lot of fans of those around this site. the Ruger P95 Taurus PT111 are supposed to be pretty good guns but I'm not a fan of either. Beretta makes a good gun.
I'm a 1911 fan but I usually wont tell people to get them. Pick one up and see how you like the feel. You'll know then if a 1911 would be right for you. New shooters would just need to know that a 1911 needs to be cleaned more than most "combat" style guns. Especially the higher end tighter fit ones. I think if it was me looking for a first gun I'd lean to the M&P's. I just like the way they feel.
for a ccw the glock 26 would be my choice. The recoil is a bit much but anything small and light weight is going to have that when 9mm or larger caliber.
I know where you are coming from, I looked and looked.
I didn't buy any of the above. I bought a Kahr PM9 and after putting a couple of hundred rounds through it it's the best.
9mm and yet I can carry it in a pocket holster in the front pocket of my jeans. Maybe I am self concious but I want to carry in a way that even I don't know I am carrying. The PM9 nails it.
Think very, very carefully before you buy. Test out the pistol with a couple of holsters. Do you see it? Is it comfortable? Is the weight OK?
I can carry the PM9 ISWB small of the back, pocket, paddle, whatever.
Like my PM9 a lot! Nice gun. Now that winter is coming, I am carrying a PX4SC 9 or the PM9 depending on clothes.
You can add me to the list of PM9 carriers. It's the one I carry most during the summer. I don't carry it as much during the winter, as I can hide my G26 easily under a jacket.
The Kahr CW9 is also a good choice. Only slightly larger than a PM, but a whole lot less expensive.
I really appreciate all your help folks, but now I'm not so sure that my choices are that good now.
You have introduced some nice pieces that I had not thought of and now I have added more possibilities to the list.
I hate that when it happens as I'm plum tuckered out from searching.
I'm about ready to buy a Colt 45 Army Issue and just carry in around in a suit case.
I like the size of the PX4, the looks of the Ruger and the price of the Taurus. I did surf the net on the Kahr PM9 and that's a nice little guy, but there were some complaints as to fit and finish.
Anyway, the search is still on.
BTW, would any of you consider a .380 rather then the 9mm for a CCW?
Hey go to the range that rents guns and try some out, there are a few the will let you try as you are going to buy. .380 = 9mm same bullet one has the bite of a poodle and the other a pitbull, but of the flip side google the FBI Miami shoot out and you choose. The goal should never be to kill someone but it should be to terminate the attack keeping in mind (dead men tell no lies) I have carried a 9 for years and changed to the 10mm lite or 40 cal. The Firearm you choose needs to be comfortable to you, both in shooting and carry. I dont think the .380 will make a good home defence gun. its a lil small. 9 would be about as small as I would go but opinions are like A-- holes and everyone has one and I'm no different.
hey, i almost went with the beretta px4 storm, but instead i went with the Springfield XD-9, and i LOVE my gun. i havent shot either of the others. all i can say from what i have heard from law enforcement is to stay away from taurus. however, thats law enforcement and may serve a better purpose for you.
I have been picking everybody's brain that I can and after checking with a few cop friends as well, they have all unanimously said the Glock 27 .40 is the way to go. It has the stopping power and does not kick anymore then the 9mm. I was wondering if any of you have seen the OD Green model up close and is it a little more attractive then the black?
I see there are some terrific prices on the Internet for these guns, but you have to go through your local dealer for the paper work and transfer.
It this a hassle and are the local gun dealers a little hesitant because you are buying from another dealer?
Does the local dealer charge a lot for this service?
Do you have to set it up with the local dealer before you buy on the internet?
personally, i dont like the OD frame, i prefer the all black.
i dont know of anyone that has bought on the internet buy gotten the papers locally, but i could image they probably dont like to do it often, but idk.
maybe someone else on here will have experienced this before.
Well, I'm just about ready to plunk down the bucks for the Glock.
Beefybeefo, I'm glad you mentioned the difference in kick between the 9mm and the .40.
I figured the .40 had a bigger kick so the 26 is the one I will probably concentrate on.
However, I have one little concern that is keeping me from immediately reaching for my wallet. Its the guns safety. I understand that the safety is in the trigger and if you should happen to snag that puppy on your clothing or something while putting it in your pocket or moving it around then there is going to be a loud bang and everybody is going to be ducking including me. I understand that there is a company that retrofits an external safety for about $100.00. That being the case then that puts the Glock into a price range that becomes unattractive.
It also surprises me that Glock has this strange setup.
Maybe the Beretta PX4 or the Ruger P95 would be better. I just don't know.
I did check on a few gun ranges and one does rent guns. I will pay them a visit and go from there.
Some of the guns you guys have mentioned like the Springfield XD and the Kahr are beauties, but pricy. I'm kind of on a budget so its "Best Bang for the Buck" at this point......
your right about the safety being in the hands of the handler.
There is a gun shop close to where I live that I bought some ammo from a few months ago and the owner seems like a very savvy person.
He is a Glock fancier and I will pay him a visit as well.
He showed me a bunch of Glocks in his inventory, but I was not thinking about the Glock at that time so I didn't pay as close attention as I could have. I remember he mentioned that one of the Glocks, may have been the next one up from the G27 was $617.00. With tax I'm getting close to $700.00. Not sure I want to go that high.
However, I know you get what you pay for, so I maybe I'll hock the TV set or something.
That's expensive, especially for a G27. Unless of course they're more in your area. Make sure you look or call around to the different shops and get prices from them all. Look around online and you will see about what they go for (plus shipping and FFL fees). Either way, the sub-compact Glocks are great guns. Good luck with your search. It's always fun.