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    Handgun Permit help, Please...!

    I applied for a handgun permit (not to carry, just to own) and it came back denied. Now I am a straight up guy, never been in trouble. I have a super credit history, and the last time I ever had a run in with the law was 28 years ago because of unpaid motorvehicle tickets. The Pennsylvania state police denied my handgun permit....why? What is my next step to get this straighten out? Will anyone who has ever been through this please give me some advise? All I want is a .22 pistol for shooting range fun and a .9mm for home protection, nothing more and nothing less. Can someone please help me........!

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    Best bet is to call the State Police and get the reason directly from them instead of getting a bunch of speculation from us here. Then, when you have them on the phone, find out how you appeal.

    Then, tell us what you've found out.

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    Ok, I'll give them a call and see what they say but I'm not expecting a straight answer over the phone. The gun dealer is sending me papers to appeal there decision. I just didn't understand the procedure and I was hoping someone might have been through this before and give me some pointers. Hopefully this won't take months to straighten out with multiple form of paperwork. My first guess was that someone had the same name as me, and did something stupid and they pinned that to me. I will just have to wait and see. Thanks for the reply, I will post back with any answers I get.

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    Since you don't need a permit to own a gun in PA, I don't understand what you applied for. At any rate, here is a reference from the state web site that may prove helpful. http://www.psp.state.pa.us/PSP/Lib/p...M_BROCHURE.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by HowardCohodas View Post
    Since you don't need a permit to own a gun in PA, I don't understand what you applied for. At any rate, here is a reference from the state web site that may prove helpful. http://www.psp.state.pa.us/PSP/Lib/p...M_BROCHURE.pdf
    +1 on this info. With a clean record and a valid PA driver's license, you can go to a gun shop in your area and pretty much purchase any handgun you desire. You should never have to go through the PA State PD for anything. If you apply for a carry permit, you will do so with your local sheriff's office. I can't imagine what you could have applied for and where you got the paper work. You may have been applying for a Class 3 permit for automatic weapons and silencers, that's all I can think of.

    PLEASE EXPAND ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF YOUR SITUATION SO WE CAN HELP. YOU CAN SEND ME A PRIVATE EMAIL IF YOU WANT TO CHAT ABOUT THE PROPER PROCESS.
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    Ok, maybe I worded it wrong. I failed the backround check to be able to purchase and walk out with a handgun. I thought it was a license/permit to own a gun, sorry I'm new to all this. I have no intent to carry, just to own and protect my home and shoot at at shooting range. I just went through an FBI background check and fingerprinting for carring hazmat for a CDL license (new federal law) passed no questions asked. I have had a CDL for 22 years with no problems and no issues. So why can't I get a simple P22 for target shooting and a 9.mm hand gun for home protection. Somewhere, someone has issues with this, I just want to get to the bottom of this and get it fixed!

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    OK, that makes more sense. Did the shop owner give you any insight as to the rejection? My guess is that they simply get a yes or no. Did the shop owner that gave you the news give you advise on whom you should contact? I would still go to my local sheriff's office and ask them. Less busy and more personable than the PA State Police. They may be much more helpful with questions.

    BTW, your avatar is freaking me out a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quickstarr View Post
    Ok, maybe I worded it wrong. I failed the backround check to be able to purchase and walk out with a handgun. I thought it was a license/permit to own a gun, sorry I'm new to all this. I have no intent to carry, just to own and protect my home and shoot at at shooting range. I just went through an FBI background check and fingerprinting for carring hazmat for a CDL license (new federal law) passed no questions asked. I have had a CDL for 22 years with no problems and no issues. So why can't I get a simple P22 for target shooting and a 9.mm hand gun for home protection. Somewhere, someone has issues with this, I just want to get to the bottom of this and get it fixed!
    Hmmmm did you look over the paperwork you submitted? Double check your social security number and ensure the employee who submitted your application read it correctly? Something like a SSN with a number off could cause it to be denied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsig1 View Post
    OK, that makes more sense. Did the shop owner give you any insight as to the rejection? My guess is that they simply get a yes or no. Did the shop owner that gave you the news give you advise on whom you should contact? I would still go to my local sheriff's office and ask them. Less busy and more personable than the PA State Police. They may be much more helpful with questions.

    BTW, your avatar is freaking me out a bit.
    The shop owner was just given a declined after 4 days of waiting, it was initally called (put into research) and await a decision. They told me paperwork would be mailed out immediately to me to fill out and to send it to the state police to get an explanation???. I'm still waiting for the paperwork. Then I can try and challenge their decision, that's the way it was explained to me. The local sheriffs office sounds like a great idea, Monday morning I will call and see what they say on this matter. And my avatar is my pet pug, he is playing dead and peaking from one eye at me. I point my finger at him like I shot him and he rolls over and makes like he is wounded and waits for me to give him the thumbs up. He is my best bud!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JagFarlane View Post
    Hmmmm did you look over the paperwork you submitted? Double check your social security number and ensure the employee who submitted your application read it correctly? Something like a SSN with a number off could cause it to be denied.
    Yes, I checked it over before I submitted it. The social # was correct and the store is a very well known dealer (cabelas) so I feel they did their part. Although they are very busy and handle a large amout of backround checks, I believe they try and do a good job. Actually while I was waiting almost everyone who applied for a handgun was walking out the door with them, except me. So time will tell I guess, I'll do my part and hopefully they will do theirs and fix the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quickstarr View Post
    The shop owner was just given a declined after 4 days of waiting, it was initially called (put into research) and await a decision. They told me paperwork would be mailed out immediately to me to fill out and to send it to the state police to get an explanation???. I'm still waiting for the paperwork. Then I can try and challenge their decision, that's the way it was explained to me. The local sheriffs office sounds like a great idea, Monday morning I will call and see what they say on this matter.
    OK, this gets a bit odd again. In PA, the shop owner usually calls in your information once you have chosen the gun and agreed to the price. A reply is basically instantly given to you as the shop owner calls in the info you have written out on the two forms, which you fill out right there in front of him with your PA DL out for him to review. I've purchased at least 15 guns in more than 6 shops and the process has always been the same. I can't see you not getting an answer on the spot and having to wait 4 days. Some of the employees there may not have their heart in it. They may be overworked and underpaid. I would go to a different gunshop (small with a friendly owner), find what gun I like and try the process again. Also, Cabela's basically sells at MSRP. You can usually find better deals at smaller, local shops.

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    Sometimes the problem is with the records keeping in Harrisburg. I spoke with one guy who had a background check denial because of warrants out for nonpayment of child support. The problem was that this guy had never had a child. Turned out that the warrant had been issued against somebody with a similar name and had been recorded against his. Data entry has gotten better over time, but mistakes still happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsig1 View Post
    OK, this gets a bit odd again. In PA, the shop owner usually calls in your information once you have chosen the gun and agreed to the price. A reply is basically instantly given to you as the shop owner calls in the info you have written out on the two forms, which you fill out right there in front of him with your PA DL out for him to review. I've purchased at least 15 guns in more than 6 shops and the process has always been the same. I can't see you not getting an answer on the spot and having to wait 4 days. Some of the employees there may not have their heart in it. They may be overworked and underpaid. I would go to a different gunshop (small with a friendly owner), find what gun I like and try the process again. Also, Cabela's basically sells at MSRP. You can usually find better deals at smaller, local shops.

    Nice Pug.
    I did just as you said, filled out both forms after price was agreed and it was submitted and told to wait 30 minutes. At that time it came back delayed and they told me it would be up to 15 days for a final decision. Well after 5 days cabelas called me and said that it was denied by the PA state police and no other info was given or available. They said I would get a form to challenge it and that is what I'm waiting on now, should be here tomorrow. I was thinking about trying another shop but I was affraid it all goes to one central database and it would only make the situation worse. Trust me, I won't buy from cabelas again. It will only be a small localally owned family gun shop, and actually I have two close by. So if this ever gets straightened out, they will be the ones getting my business.

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    Hope it all gets straightened out for you. Good luck. Let us know how it progresses. You are definitely on the right track. Like "dannyb" has posted, you will find a lot of input from this forum and generally great advice from people who have experienced similar situations.

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    found this on line

    You will need to contact your FFL dealer. Have them give you the NTN # from the application given to them by NICS. Find the NICS Gun Buyer Resolution Guide, and you can find out why, and how to resolve the issue by filing a NICS Voluntary Appeal.

    http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/nics/index.htm

    I hope this helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyb View Post
    Sometimes the problem is with the records keeping in Harrisburg. I spoke with one guy who had a background check denial because of warrants out for nonpayment of child support. The problem was that this guy had never had a child. Turned out that the warrant had been issued against somebody with a similar name and had been recorded against his. Data entry has gotten better over time, but mistakes still happen.
    Similar name, that's a very interesting idea. I have a son who is 25 with the same name as me, except middle name. Who no longer lives at home and has had a "few problems and arrests" in the past 10 years. I wonder if they could be confusing him and I together?

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    Thanks everyone for all the great ideas and help, it is all very much appreciated and very usefull. I will post how this is going once I get more info on this.

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    interesting thought

    I enlisted in the military 20 some odd years ago, thats when I found out I robbed my first bank at the whooping old age of 5, hum go figure.
    Good Luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redwolf View Post
    I enlisted in the military 20 some odd years ago, thats when I found out I robbed my first bank at the whooping old age of 5, hum go figure.
    Good Luck
    Got off to a late start, huh?

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    Give me a break

    you ever try getting your hands on a assault rife at the age of 4, finding a getaway driver, oh yea seeing over the counter so the clerk can see you. LMAO

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