Ohhhh, this oughta be good. Gotta watch this one.

My uncle's friend's cousin-in-law had a (insert brand here) and it never worked right!

I think most problems with gun reliability are caused by the operator. If a company was making crap guns that didn't work, they wouldn't be around too long.

Otherwise, it comes down to personal preference and budget.

This topic was already discussed on this thread... What handguns don't you like?

hi point.

New to the forum but somehow reading this thread I just knew that Hi Point would be the first thing mentioned... Just knew it

My opinion, stay away from Magtech defense loads. I've seen multiple test of their loads which didn't expand at all.
Go with the big names, they've got it down pretty well.

Oops, thought that was a ammo question. But still, go with the big names and you should be okay.

Phoenix, Llama OMNI, Glock, and Highpoint. You can't trust any of them to work right.

Originally Posted by Don357

Phoenix, Llama OMNI, Glock, and Highpoint. You can't trust any of them to work right.

Huh?

Originally Posted by Don357

Phoenix, Llama OMNI, Glock, and Highpoint. You can't trust any of them to work right.

Well that's one I'd never thought I'd see; Glock lumped in with Llama and Hi Point. Care to expand on why you put Glock in this category?

I understand Don357 doesn't like Glocks from some of his previous posts.

Don: Saying in this thread that you can't trust them to work right, is what we have a problem with. Even thou you don't like them, you've never said that before that I know of.

http://www.handgunforum.net/new-handguns-area/15121-narrowed-down-glock-19-a.html#post131481

Originally Posted by Don357

Just my personal opinion mind you, but I really don't like Glocks. There's nothing "wrong" with them, They are well made and reliable and fairly accurate. I just won't own one.

http://www.handgunforum.net/general-semi-auto/15003-help-me-decide-sig-p226-glock-22-baby-desert-eagle-post129769.html

Originally Posted by Don357

1st, I don't like Glucks.

http://www.handgunforum.net/general-semi-auto/14646-pick-2-a.html#post126391

Originally Posted by Don357

Not that they're not good guns, they are. I just don't like 'em!

Its a hard question. Personally I've used even a K-Mart shotgun and Sears muzzleloader, both which worked fine.
Roommate has had some issues with a Bryco Arms 9mm not feeding correctly but right now signs are indicating issues with the magazines, currently awaiting new ones to test that.

I personally avoid Taurus like the plague. Most of the others mentioned here are not considered major brand names. I don't even consider Hi Point in the level of the major brands.

Really, I guess that reliability issue statement was a little off the cuff as far as those Austrian pistols go, they're not un-reliable I guess, not anymore than any other pistol. There are some that are worse! And I don't mean to offend anyone about their choice of firearms. But I don't trust or like Glocks, and would own one only long enough to sell it.

Originally Posted by Don357

Really, I guess that reliability issue statement was a little off the cuff as far as those Austrian pistols go, they're not un-reliable I guess, not anymore than any other pistol. There are some that are worse! And I don't mean to offend anyone about their choice of firearms. But I don't trust or like Glocks, and would own one only long enough to sell it.

Do you care to elaborate as to why you wouldn't trust a Glock? What problems have you had? Just curious...

-Jeff-

Personal experiences, I have none. But I have seen (in person) examples of "KA-BOOMED" Glocks, and have read of many more. Enough to know that I don't want one. Looks not withstanding (after all, I shoot a Witness), they're not going to win any beauty contests. Anyway, there's just something about Glocks that gives me a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach. And to quote Walter Cronkite..."And that's the way it is".

Hi-Point is the only gun I have owned that I would not buy another.

On a side note my guess is:
Darringer are bad for home defense
Barrett 50 cals are bad for concealed weapons

Originally Posted by vrodcruiser

On a side note my guess is:
Darringer are bad for home defense
Barrett 50 cals are bad for concealed weapons

Speak for yourself.. I gots me some long thick pants hehehehe.

Zhur

Originally Posted by zhurdan

Speak for yourself.. I gots me some long thick pants hehehehe.

Zhur

Well I can't say that I know your joking

Approach the idea from the other end. Stick to the major brands and you will be fine. Better safe than sorry in self defense.

The Beretta 92 and 96 are great if you can figure a good way to carry.

maybe that glock went kaboom because of +P ammo
glock doesn't recommend +P
(I think that is correct)

Originally Posted by ttomp

hi point.

Why Hi-Point? Accuracy is great, no misfires with the right ammo, grip is fairly comfortable. Yeah it's cheap, but you can't say a firearm is crap just because it's cheap. Been shooting hi-point for years with no problems whatsoever. For home defense or plinking you can't go wrong, maybe not so great for competitive shooting or public carry protection, but great for everything else.

Unless you have actually had experience with a certain firearm, don't be so quick to dismiss it.

If you want a cheap, reliable handgun Hi-Point is the way to go.

Jennings/Bryco firearms are not the greatest. I have a .32 Bryco that I throw in the car whenever I am going into the city. It has actually fallen apart once, luckily when not being fired. It is a good throw away gun (use once and toss it in the river), but that's about it. Cheap and small, that's why all the "illegals" carry it. Again, not the greatest.

Wait for it...

Good Lord.

Throw away in the river?

I simply can't respond without being rude.

Happy Thanksgiving.. meaning that your defense weapon should be your best friend, not something you'd throw in the river after an illegal act.

Grow up.

Sorry but this is rediculous.

Zhur