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    Quote Originally Posted by hud35500 View Post
    Steve, I'm going to have to disagree with one part of your observations. An AR-15 loaded with 55 gr. HP will penetrate less drywall than any handgun round or 12 gauge 00 buck. Wouldn't have believed it, but I watched a live test myself. While it does significant damage to living tissue, the combination of a light weight bullet and very high velocity, fragmented after passing thru one sheet of drywall. The fragments embedded in the second sheet, but did not penetrate. I would like to see the same test with a 7.62x39 or maybe the 6.8spc, but they are totally different animals than the 5.56. Anyway, the carbine may be more suitable for home defense than previously believed. Something to think about ?
    You are correct, that is why there are a lot of police departments giving up the 9mm sub gun for the shorter barreled versions of the M-16.

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    Well, we were originally writing about the SKS, so let's limit ourselves for the moment to the 7.62x39mm round.
    In its case, it presents a relatively heavy bullet that's travelling relatively slowly (all relative to the 55-grain .223), and it definitely will penetrate more than two layers of drywall. Thus it is inappropriate for use within an occupied dwelling.

    Note, please, that at no time was I discussing the AR-series of rifles or their ammunition. That was someone else's addition.


    Note to skullfr:
    "Battle rifle" is no description of the SKS.
    The ultimate "battle rifle" might've been the SMLE, if one were to judge from its conditions of use.
    In order to qualify as an infantryman, the British soldier armed with the SMLE had to fire as many shots as possible in one minute, on the silhouette of a man's head and shoulders that was 300 yards away, and make at least 15 good hits.
    It takes a real battle rifle, to do that.
    (Try it, some time—even with a scoped semi-auto.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    Well, we were originally writing about the SKS, so let's limit ourselves for the moment to the 7.62x39mm round.
    In its case, it presents a relatively heavy bullet that's travelling relatively slowly (all relative to the 55-grain .223), and it definitely will penetrate more than two layers of drywall. Thus it is inappropriate for use within an occupied dwelling.

    Note, please, that at no time was I discussing the AR-series of rifles or their ammunition. That was someone else's addition.


    Note to skullfr:
    "Battle rifle" is no description of the SKS.
    The ultimate "battle rifle" might've been the SMLE, if one were to judge from its conditions of use.
    In order to qualify as an infantryman, the British soldier armed with the SMLE had to fire as many shots as possible in one minute, on the silhouette of a man's head and shoulders that was 300 yards away, and make at least 15 good hits.
    It takes a real battle rifle, to do that.
    (Try it, some time—even with a scoped semi-auto.)
    Steve, I have to agree with you about the "Smelly". The "Mad Minute" is quite a drill, especially with a bolt action rifle. You don't think the SKS would be able to accomplish that? lol.

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    My buddy put a synthetic tapco stock on his and is running pro mag 30 rounders. That thing is unreal accurate!! Underrated is about the truth though.

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    My Yugo wears a T6 in olive drab, it is what it is, designed to hit a man sized target at 300 m. Some are made better than others. IMO the best were the Russian's and Yugo's.

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    Timing with the AK47 coming out not all that much later, is why the SKS carbine is less disirable. It's job is the same as an AK and almost as simple to break down, for cleaning, SKS's can go w/o cleaning and is just about as durable. It is what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thndrchiken View Post
    My Yugo wears a T6 in olive drab, it is what it is, designed to hit a man sized target at 300 m. Some are made better than others. IMO the best were the Russian's and Yugo's.
    I'll second that opinion.

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    I'll 3rd that, my sks gets more action than any gun in my house. I did remove the 30 round clip in favor of the stock 10 cause I find it easier loading.

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    I like em'

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    Hey, they ran us out of Vietnam with it, it can't be too bad.

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    Hey, they ran us out of Vietnam with it, it can't be too bad.
    BTroop, 1/1 Cav., 67-68.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pistol Pete View Post
    Hey, they ran us out of Vietnam with it, it can't be too bad.
    BTroop, 1/1 Cav., 67-68.
    Did you have much exposure to the m16?

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