Originally Posted by scooter

but whatcha gonna do for a CCW while kimmies away? That AR might print a little too much

No problem... I'll just wear a reeeaaalllyyy baggy shirt and if someone ask I'll just tell them it's my cell phone.

Originally Posted by Wandering Man

Take a deep breath and hold it ... hold it ... Now let it go. Think calm relaxing thoughts. Its going to be OK.

You might consider an air soft gun for a few days. Or even a squirt gun, just to help you get through the withdrawal.

We have treatment for this.

Its going to be OK.

... really!

WM

I'm already having withdraws...and it's just packed up in a box across the room, ready to be shipped.

Originally Posted by js

I'm not very happy about it, that's for sure...



Yeah, I'm hoping they come through for me...I'm sure they will, I've heard and read nothing but great things about their service...so we'll see.

They said it would take no longer than 10 days to repair, so I won't be carrying during that time. At least I have my AR for home protection.

A guy who works for me at Galco had to send his Kimber Pro CDP back three times, and they never got it right. Three trips to Yonkers and it still refused to go into battery about once every 2-3 mags, despite an extensive break-in. He even tried Wolff springs, but no joy. So Kimber gave him a new gun - which did the same thing. It made for a very interesting conversation in the Kimber booth at SHOT Show this year. He ended up trading the CDP for two Glocks. I hope they do better on yours.

I am shocked that you don't have a backup carry gun, JS! Now you know what to buy next, though.

Originally Posted by Mike Barham at Galco

I am shocked that you don't have a backup carry gun, JS! Now you know what to buy next, though.

+1

Looks like it's time to go shopping.


PS, did they send you a call tag or offer to reimburse you for shipping?

Originally Posted by 2400

+1

Looks like it's time to go shopping.


PS, did they send you a call tag or offer to reimburse you for shipping?

I just did

As for the call tag... No. I just paid 71 bucks to ship it back... I'm calling Kimber right now about it. All I can say is...they better hook me up. Of course UPS is charging a higher fuel charge as well. The fuel charge alone was 8.75

Originally Posted by js

I just did

As for the call tag... No. I just paid 71 bucks to ship it back... I'm calling Kimber right now about it. All I can say is...they better hook me up. Of course UPS is charging a higher fuel charge as well. The fuel charge alone was 10.00

Good luck on the call tag.

My wife swapped a Glock for a Springfield 1911. It had some issues and she called Springfield about them. We shipped the gun to Springfield ($49) the begining of last week. The gun was back today with all the problems fixed and a note saying they would send a check for our shipping costs.

$71!!!!!! good god.

In Jan 2006 when I shipped a $1200 1911 to Tripp Research (damn him for screwing it up), it was like $50 to ship it. There was no fuel surcharge at the time. I have heard people mention it since then, but I thought $2 or $3 for that. Damn.

Springfield will sometimes refund shipping AFTER the fact, if they are satisfied that the problem is theirs. But, most companies won't do it. Ive bought new guns with issues right away, and have complained on the phone - Why should I have to pay shipping for something that is brand new and defective. If UPS and Fedex didn't make U send the damn thing next day - shipping costs wouldn't be such a big deal.

Wow. That is a lot of $. I am shocked that it has gone up that much. Now I KNOW that if I NP3 my USPc, I'll only do the slide. They can do the internals of the frame to smooth the trigger more, but then ya gotta mail the frame of the gun and it costs so much.

$71!!!!!

yep, 71 bucks... When I sent my 92FS to beretta so they could refinish the slide it only cost me $53.00

Here's the detials from the receipt:

1DA Package: 53.00
Fuel Surcharge: 8.75
Insured Value Charge: 9.60

Total: 71.35

I insured it for 1,000... The last time I sent a gun overnight...UPS lost it for 5 days. So I insure now.

Anyway, I didn't have a chance to call them today because of work... but, you can bet your ass that they will be hearing from me tomorrow morning. So, we'll see...

Originally Posted by js

Anyway, I didn't have a chance to call them today because of work... but, you can bet your ass that they will be hearing from me tomorrow morning. So, we'll see...

What did you find out?

Hmm from what I've been reading on this forum, and on calguns.net, Kimber's don't seem to be that reliable, and always have issues.

Originally Posted by ApocalypseWoman

Hmm from what I've been reading on this forum, and on calguns.net, Kimber's don't seem to be that reliable, and always have issues.

It would seem that way, but there are lots of Kimbers out there that run like Swiss watches. My Pro CDP is one of them. Had a few failures to return to battery and feed right out of the box, but after the 300 round count she’s been perfect. Now has over 2000 consecutive trouble free rounds and counting.

Originally Posted by ApocalypseWoman

Hmm from what I've been reading on this forum, and on calguns.net, Kimber's don't seem to be that reliable, and always have issues.

Read enough of these forums and you'll begin to think there isn't a gun out there that's worth having.

All brands have sold lemons.

WM

Originally Posted by Wandering Man

Read enough of these forums and you'll begin to think there isn't a gun out there that's worth having.

All brands have sold lemons.

WM

I understand that there are lemons out there, but the point of these forums is to learn and find out from others what they think etc. My statement refers to that fact. I heard away from this forum that the Kimber Custom TLE/RL II is a good cheaper alternative to the Springfield Operator. So when I saw the thread on Possible Kimber Issue's I decided to have a look. Since then I have also seen many other threads on other forums which have had a lot of negative things said about them. I've also heard a few positives (although not as many).

Personally I'm a fan of Sig Sauer, Springfield and CZ guns (in general, not just 1911's). I'm just here to futher my knowledge on the topic - Pros or Cons.

Well, I think Kimber is doing much better now that they have gone back to the internal extractor.

The thing about the Springfields - I hate their version of the novkak sights - be it their white dot or their night sights. It is my understanding that they are made by novak. But they must be seriously cheaping out. Compare them with Other Novak sights, and U can see the difference.

I love the sights on the KImbers, and they are accurate guns. It does seem like U do take a greater chance of having a problem compared to other brands. But, overall, the 5" guns are the most trouble. The smaller barrelled Kimbers are the real headaches. Granted, there are trouble free models, but as the 1911 gets smaller, the likelyhood of problems goes up (probably on all brands).

Unless I dropped a chunk of change on a custom gun, ID I ever got another 1911, it would either be a Kimber or a S&W.

As others have suggested, the "clocking" brass situation indicates an ejector problem, not a problem with your external extractor. If the shell casing comes out, the extractor is working.

I sent my Pro Raptor II back to Kimber to correct this situation after first speaking with Dennis in the Pro Shop. It's an adjustment issue with your ejector, nothing more. Has nothing to do with the external extractor.

Well, I just got off the phone with the Kimber custom shop. They are giving me a new slide with the internal extractor and I should have the gun back anytime now. They said that the old slide was out of spec so they changed it out with the new slide.

When test firing the gun they (Kimber) were getting other issues as well...

Hey, thats kewl

Did ya ask for a 2nd kimber to make up for your trouble

Sounds like Kimber has done you right!!!

Most people don't realize that no matter what line of work, or what product is being produced there WILL BE problems. Its how those problems are handled that seperates the good companies from the bad.

Trust me, being in the construction business, I know. Thats 99% of my job, problem solver/handler.

Originally Posted by jwkimber45

Sounds like Kimber has done you right!!!

Most people don't realize that no matter what line of work, or what product is being produced there WILL BE problems. Its how those problems are handled that seperates the good companies from the bad.

Trust me, being in the construction business, I know. Thats 99% of my job, problem solver/handler.

Kick ass gun, Kick ass company... I'm totally happy...

Originally Posted by js

Kick ass gun, Kick ass company... I'm totally happy...

Did they pay for the shipping?

Originally Posted by 2400

Did they pay for the shipping?

Yep

Well, I got my Kimber back today...with a brand new slide and barrel!

I talked to "John" at the Kimber custom shop today and he saidd they put 9 mags worth of ammo through it before sending it back to me. He said it functioned flawlessy.

Here's a pic with the new slide...

Lookin' good

Sweet deal

WM