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    all-righty then -

    I did some research , some digging , etc

    ......and I found what many of you probably already know :

    most of the main manufactures of firearms will fix a gun for free, however each situation is diffrent and depending on what person /dept. you speak to .you may get different answers to similar questions.

    Politeness respect , and tact go a long way in interfacing with any company - and one feller might get the red carpet treatment , where as another might get a brush off . ALL the gun companies have

    horror stories , but to stay in business -they have to get repeat or new customers and most if not all do their very best to make the customer happy .

    The wording of many of the warranty's is a bunch of legal jargon and we all would be wise to take it with a grain of salt ; heck , Ruger doesn't even have a written warranty- but you would be hard pressed not to have them fix anything that malfunctions on their guns , for free !

    I was wondering - on another subject .....since the H&K P7M8 is considered one of the best guns of it's type to have ever been made .....and like new pieces bring around 2000$ in todays market ;

    why the heck did they stop making them ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAWPAUL View Post

    I was wondering - on another subject .....since the H&K P7M8 is considered one of the best guns of it's type to have ever been made .....and like new pieces bring around 2000$ in todays market ;

    why the heck did they stop making them ??
    Today's market is driven by the fact that they are no longer in production and are a niche gun. When the guns were being made, they were more expensive than their competition and had high costs to manufacture....


    None of which has anything to do with Kimber Ultra Carry models, so it would be in our best interests to take this over to the HK Section if you'd like to continue.

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    My Kimber Ultra Aegis II 9mm was a gorgeous gun and yes way overpriced at $1050. I experienced about 5 jams in only 100 rounds shot, gun was bought brand new. While the gun was high quality, the magazines were the achilles heel...very much junk and 99.9% the cause of the jams.

    Purchasing a few nice Wilson Combat mags would be a prudent investment.

    For the record, I sold mine and am looking for another H&K since I have only one gun in the household and that gun has to be the one I trust my life on.

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    I have 2 new Wilson Combat Mags to try out in my Kimber Ultra CDP II

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    I have a 3in Ultra Carry II .45 It's been my dad's, my brother's and then mine. All told, there's been several thousand rounds through it, and aside from a random stovepipe (which happens with any weapon that's not a revolver) it's never had a problem. Extremely accurate, reliable and lightweight. It's a great gun.
    the only downside is the damn tool you have to have to field strip it. No barrel lock. There's this little paperclip like tool to hold the recoil spring back. It's annoying.
    Other than that, excellent weapon.

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    the 7 rd? I have one, and love it. No feed issues. The only thing is the length. This is a concealed carry weapon for me, and the mag doesn't fit flush, but it's not a noticeable difference. I'm just picky. :-D

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDoug View Post
    I have a 3in Ultra Carry II .45 It's been my dad's, my brother's and then mine. All told, there's been several thousand rounds through it, and aside from a random stovepipe (which happens with any weapon that's not a revolver) it's never had a problem. Extremely accurate, reliable and lightweight. It's a great gun.
    the only downside is the damn tool you have to have to field strip it. No barrel lock. There's this little paperclip like tool to hold the recoil spring back. It's annoying.
    Other than that, excellent weapon.
    I was able to buy a cheap jig thats about the size of a .22 shell that replaces that paper clip gizzmo .works like a charm - I will go find the feller selling them

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    For what they cost, you can buy 2 or 3 handguns......look nice, but no thanks......I am not trying to impress anyone.......

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    Nice looking guns, never fired one - have read a lot of great reviews on them though but have to agree with berettabone. Won't own a gun based on the brand name.

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    I bought the Stainless Raptor Pro II 3 weeks ago, my first K. In spite of their caveat, shot 200 reloads through it without a hitch. Needless to say in spite of the negative comment read here at HGF, I love shooting that gun. As for the warranty issue I doubt I'll need it but it was way down the list of concerns. Auto Zone lifetime warranties most their low end parts, but I wouldn't use them on my car. Want to know who else offers a lifetime warranty? Hi Point. Won't own one of those either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffWard View Post
    ....I'll CARRY an ugly, cheap, MODERN XD, Glock, or M&P, over a 1911 any day. Same reason.
    I can just hear the M&Pers saying the Glock design 25 years old, I'll take a more modern design.

    Plus, in all fairness, how old is the combustion engine in our cars? We have the same engine design (internal combustion) that has been around for 100 years. The only difference is refinements.

    Isn't the same true of the 1911 design - newer metals, more optimized frame hole locations, tighter tolerances, new features, etc.

    How many 'modern' guns are based on some variation of the Browning tilt barrels?

    I now have four Kimbers. All have been flawless through thousands of rounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangle View Post
    I can just hear the M&Pers saying the Glock design 25 years old, I'll take a more modern design.

    Plus, in all fairness, how old is the combustion engine in our cars? We have the same engine design (internal combustion) that has been around for 100 years. The only difference is refinements.

    Isn't the same true of the 1911 design - newer metals, more optimized frame hole locations, tighter tolerances, new features, etc.

    How many 'modern' guns are based on some variation of the Browning tilt barrels?

    I now have four Kimbers. All have been flawless through thousands of rounds.
    Apparently your definition of flawless and mine differ:

    Just bought a new Super Carry Custom HD - problems, but Kimber CS is tops!

    While your guns are at least making it trough multiple firing sequences, I would not consider them without flaw...

    I also seem to recall some trigger issues with the first gun? If my memory serves me correctly you found some foreign debris in the trigger works.

    Wasn't that a Custom Shop gun as well or was that just the regular Pro Carry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VAMarine View Post
    Apparently your definition of flawless and mine differ:

    Just bought a new Super Carry Custom HD - problems, but Kimber CS is tops!

    While your guns are at least making it trough multiple firing sequences, I would not consider them without flaw...

    I also seem to recall some trigger issues with the first gun? If my memory serves me correctly you found some foreign debris in the trigger works.

    Wasn't that a Custom Shop gun as well or was that just the regular Pro Carry?
    I only have the one Custom Shop gun - the Super Carry, and I've only had it for about a week, so no, it wouldn't have been a Custom Shop gun. Refresh me on the debris problem. It's been so long ago and I've shot so much since then without a problem, I don't remember what or if this occured on a Kimber, SA, or S&W.

    Probably true about the different definition. I don't consider debris a design or necessarily a manufacturing flaw. For all I know, I could have caused that - I had disassembled the gun completely to compare the Kimber parts and fit to a new SA and S&W. What I consider design and/or manufacturing flaw(s) is what Lima went through with her G19.

    The Kimber parts were visibly more precisely finished, and fitted than the other two. Just an example or two: The corners of the disconnector on the Kimber were visibly rounded - not a lot, but noticable. The faces of the disconnector were polished. The edges and fingers on the flat spring were broken, rounded, and polished on the Kimber. The slide had the break on the edge of the breech face that it's supposed to have. Neither the S&W or SA were finished this way and expecially the TRP cost far more than the Kimber.

    The trigger issues I've had were on a Springfield Armory TRP and a S&W 1911. The TRP and the S&W both had incorrectly manufactured disconnectors. They were so rough that they were scratching the trigger bar and as one would expect, producing a rough, heavier trigger. My TRP extractor broke within 60 rounds.

    By flawless, I meant thousands of rounds with zero stoppages of any kind. Even with the Super Custom that shoots 2" high there were no stoppages of any kind, but I've only shot 100 rounds through the Super. Nor have any of them ever failed to lock back on the last round.

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    I just bought a Super Carry Ultra HD last Saturday. So far I have only put 50+ rounds through it. I bought my son-in-law an Ultra CDP II and he put 50 through it. We'll see, but so far we love them. I'm partial to 1911s and SA pistols though.

    We looked at Glocks, but they were blocky looking, which I thought would print easier. There was just something about the loose tooth trigger and heavier trigger pull that I didn't like.

    I think the Kimber has a pull that's slightly heavier than my Colt rail gun. Maybe I need it worked on, but I will play with it first.

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    I have a new Kimber Ultra CDP-II in 9mm and I love it. I had one FTF within the first 30 rounds....none after that. I have tried four different types of HP ammo, and three different types of new ammo and two types of reman....no problems.
    It is my first 1911 and I am learning to keep my thumb out of the way or it knocks the safety on, but other than that....VERY happy with the accuracy, recoil, trigger, and design....not to mention it is a beautiful gun to look at. It is now my carry gun. I holster it with a Comp-Tac competition OWB holster unless I need deep concealment and then I use the Comp-Tac Minotaur IWB holster. I also bought three 10-round Wilson Magazines, which I use in IDPA competition. (Yes, it sticks out a bit but it fits the box!!!)

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    No problems here on my new Ultra. Glad I didn't read into the hype before I bought my 3" Kimber because I would have missed out on a wonderful little concealed carry piece. There needs to be more positive feedback out there on 3" Kimbers.

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    I bought a very early Kimber UCII .45acp it had the external extractor, it had no ejecting problems and after around 400 rds no feeding problems. This Kimber did have a strange ejector with a long nose. This ejector kept snapping off at first I thought it was choice of Mags pushing rounds against the ejector nose. I kept shooting it after having the same type ejector replaced. Then while cleaning after the last time I shot it. I found it again had snapped off again. Called Kimber parts Dept. was told a new design now was offered and they sent one free.
    Well I got to thinking maybe it's time to do some trading. Since Kimbers are in such demand I made a very good Kimber and cash trade on a nice new Colt SXE 5" blue steel .45acp. I liked it so much when I noticed another Colt at my local dealers shop, a 1991 blue steel .45 the plain Jane Colt 1911. I had another Kimber a Custom TLE II .45 never a problem with it, but thought lets trade all the Kimbers off. Happy I did it love my new Colts. Also glad the Kimbers are in such high demand it really helped with keeping my cash included low.

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    I have a Colt XSE rail gun and love it! My friend has the exact same gun and gets FTFs all the time. It has been to a gunsmith, but no luck. He reached out to Colt, but no luck. At least Kimber offered to make you good. We tease him for being limp wrested, but we know better. He probably wishes he had a Kimber.

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    About that Glock...

    Quote Originally Posted by SemoShooter View Post
    Regardless of what forum you read many of the threads about most brands will be about some type of problem. A happy owner tells one or two people, an unhappy owner tells everyone. Other times folks are just looking for a little help to solve a small function problem. Quite often the problem seems to be related to inexperience with firearms, particularly 1911's.

    A Glock group is probably about the only one that you can read where all is positive. Glocks are all perfect and not one has ever failed. They all shoot x-ring even at super long distances and you can drop them out of airplanes and they will still work. Just ask them.
    For handguns, I have a Glock 19, Remington R1 Enhanced, LCP and have a Kimber UC II SS (9mm) on the way. The same day I first fired the 1911, the Glock was resigned to the night stand! I have a very slight tremor (a little parting gift from Mr. Lyme tick) and the weight and trigger action of a 1911 style weapon nicely compensates for it. I bought the Kimber to replace the Glock as my 'go-to' CCW. The LCP, well, is what it is but great for those times when 'absolute' concealment is required.

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    I have owned a 3" Kimber Ultra Crimson Carry for a couple of years and put 3500+ rounds through it some factory some reloads! I am happy to report that it has worked flawlessly! I also own a Super Cary Custom HD and 2 Solo's. No problem with them

    I personally get tired of all the Kimber Bashing that goes on. The vast majority of it comes from people who have never owned a Kimber. I am not sure why! I own many different guns by different manufacturers. They all have there good and not so good points.

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