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    bullet lodged in barrel

    Hello all,

    I do not own a Kel-Tec, but this concerns a .32 auto cartridge and there are probably more KT users of .32 than any other brand of firearm. Earlier today I was shooting .32 60gr. Hornady JHP/XTP's in my Seecamp, when one went off with a slight pop. Sure enough, the bullet is lodged in the barrel, just ahead of the chamber.

    I debated as to whether or not I should mention this on a public forum without giving time for Hornady to address the situation, but I have decided that this situation is potentially a very hazardous one, and other users of .32 auto should know of what happened. The lot number is 3060696.

    I will of course let the Hornady company know of what happened as soon as possible. Hopefully they will not get their nose bent out of shape because I am letting others on a public forum know of what happened. If so, so be it, but I would hate to hear of someone having a pistol blow up in their hand because they sent another round off behind one that was stuck up the barrel.

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    Thumbs up

    you did the right, thing safety is everybody's business! i don't own any 32s myself, but i am sure all that do and read this will agree with the safety issue first.

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    Care less what a company thinks as they didn't put any podwer in the cartridge. It can happen to the best of reloaders too. That's why I shoot my own and nobody elses reloads. If something goes wrong all I got to do is look in the mirror. Thanks for the heads up.

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    I would have to agree too. Even if Hornady found what you said, what could they do. There could be a potentially hazardous batch of ammo floating around. Are they going to take you to court because of a bad batch of ammo? Don't think so! You did the right thing in my eyes, and those are the ones I look through.

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    Good thing you realized it B-4 you pulled the trigger again.

    Lucky it was you shooting it instead of a novice.

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    how could you tell?

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    how could you tell the bullet was stuck? what does it feel or sound like? I have never had that happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agrostis View Post
    how could you tell the bullet was stuck? what does it feel or sound like? I have never had that happen.
    The round went off with a pop, instead of a bang. It did not have the normal recoil.

    I could tell the bullet was stuck by looking into the barrel, and seeing a copper-colored bullet-shaped object. This was of course done after field-stripping the pistol.

    PhilR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agrostis View Post
    how could you tell the bullet was stuck? what does it feel or sound like? I have never had that happen.

    If you ever have a round that feels significantly underpowered, especialy one that doesn't operate the slide, stop, wait a moment, then unload, check and make certain you unloaded, break the gun down and inspect the barrel.

    I carry 6 inch long pieces of wooden arrows in my range bag for bullet removal. I have used it twice.

    Enjoy

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOF View Post
    I carry 6 inch long pieces of wooden arrows in my range bag for bullet removal. I have used it twice.
    Yup. Been there, done that. My own reloads, in a match no less. Needless to say, I did not win that day.
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    Exclamation

    I carry a 6" piece of brass dowel in my bag and I have used it about four times over many years. Three on factory loads and one of my own. Just tap them back till you can get cylinder open or in a auto field strip and knock it out of the barrel. Happens to everybody sometime.

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    I'll be damned when this happens to me.

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    post issue's

    PhilR: Sir; follow up with 'Hornaday's' position. It will be a learning tool for all of us.
    Always post issue's whether they potentially be embarrassing or self "dumb-dumb", or what we could consider 'manufactures' issues. We all gain from others experiences

    Thanks

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    Hmmmm...

    I guess autos are "SAFER" than revolvers...

    With a "pop" load, the slide won't cycle, you cannot follow up the pop with a boom, unless you manually cycle the slide.

    With a "pop" from a revolver in DA, it would be much easier to pull the trigger again... KABOOM

    Just had to rib the revolver guys a little...

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    I was always taught that it was called a squid round. From everyone who has had one including myself, they all agree that it feels very different. Not quite sure what the gun company are going to do for bad rounds but hey good luck none the less.

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    I once inadvertently chambered a .380 in my FNP-9, the round fit in the mag and fed and fired correctly, but the slide didn't operate. The bullet did not get lodged in the barrel but I think it could have.

    Yes, I know I'm an idiot... but I'm working on it!

    I'm much more careful to separate my ammo now, and very attentive to the reports issued by my guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barham View Post
    Yup. Been there, done that. My own reloads, in a match no less. Needless to say, I did not win that day.

    condition 12 malfunction. Resolved by asking the bad guy if you can go home and get another gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neophyte View Post
    PhilR: Sir; follow up with 'Hornaday's' position. It will be a learning tool for all of us.
    Always post issue's whether they potentially be embarrassing or self "dumb-dumb", or what we could consider 'manufactures' issues. We all gain from others experiences

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    Hi Neo,

    The Hornady rep I spoke to stated that they knew of another squib load from the same lot. They had decided not to issue a recall, but would consider it if a few more cases emerge. He also went on to say that they would not make any more .32acp until better controls were in place.

    It took almost three months, but they replaced the two boxes I sent back, and sent along a third as compensation for my time. They work just fine in my Seecamp. I'm happy with the way they handled this problem.

    PhilR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneWolf View Post
    I was always taught that it was called a squid round. From everyone who has had one including myself, they all agree that it feels very different. Not quite sure what the gun company are going to do for bad rounds but hey good luck none the less.

    Actually, the correct term is "squib". Squid does sound better though, and you can have more fun with it...

    PhilR.

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