Bought A P11 Today. Blued. $260. OTD!
So, very excited about my newly acquired CCW. Kel Tec P11. I can fit it in my pocket with ease and only the back of the handle shows a tad bit (Haven't bought a holster yet, which will solve the problem). However 36W and 36L pants with an untucked shirt are easy to hide it with. I am 6'3'' 250lbs with a 36 inch waist, all my weight is in my shoulders and chest so this is an easy conceal.(I am very athletic build but this isn't a weight lifting forum so I am not going there). My winter gun is the good old Glock 19. But for summer carry in cargo shorts this is ideal. I had a Glock 27 last summer but it was so heavy it looked like I was shoplifting or something, when pocket carried. Glock fan for life but they weight was an issue for me in summer.
My question/comment though is what to do first. The Kel Tec forum we all know and love, that I am not going to plug in this forum out of respect, is saying Whites Eraser trick, and put 200 rounds thru it before you trust it to get the bugs out, and the ever popular F&B. But what have you guys done?? Cause some of those guys in that forum seem very biased. Do I really need to clean it like crazy? Cause I am from the school of Glock's where I know my Glock will eat whatever I feed it no matter what shape, size, condition.
Please and Thank you for any and all help. I am new to this forum but not "forum's". So try to just educate me on what to do with my Kel Tec first and not caliber, holster, method of carry.
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Congratulations on you purchase.
The first thing I do with a new gun is field strip and clean it.
Some guns will eat anythig, others will not feed cretain brands. Test various brands to be sure they will work when most needed.
Congratulations. I too love my P-11 for the very reasons you state (although I am Smaller, well at least shorter, and with a lower weight lol).I pocket carry in a home made or IWB in a K&D holsters.
AS to what i have done, Yes I did a F&B, but not for reliability. It did however smooth out the trigger. I happen to like a trigger stop on my pistols, and did a similar to the eraser trick (i used a cabinet bumper). I have just under 1000 rounds throught it. 1 ,read one, ftf. I was not firing it, and the person who was is not a frequent pistol shooter. I ran another 100 rounds through immediately after that, no problems.
I tend to run at least 100 rounds of my carry ammo through any semi-auto, just becasue .22s have taught me how finicky some guns can be, but this is just because, well, that is what i learned i guess. and it makes sense from a safety point to me.
Clean? we don't need no stinking cleaning? Actually i am...lax... about cleaning my guns used with modern ammo. I ususally only clean them when i am doing a whole lot of them, rifles, pistols, etc, or if i shoot a revolver. I tend to clean them immediately because i can SEE the powder residue and it bugs me.
Should you have to do the F&B? Nope. But i would run a fair number of rounds through just to get used to the (hugely different than your Glock) trigger, and besides, it's fun. I would lub it in the places recommended elsewhere, sepcifically i find at the back of the slide where it engages the hammer, and of course the rails, but i use a gun grease and do this........oh maybe 2x a year.
So Hornady Critical Defense 115gr?
Polish the feed ramp? I polished my Glock 19 Barrel to a soft mirror, not quite reflective, Can this be done to my p11 barrel? I like the contrast in color.
I can tell the trigger is different already from my Glock for sure and I would expect it to be that is why I will do the Eraser trick. However I do like your cabinet bumper idea. Did you Super Glue it on?
I have been using Federal JHP (FST??) for a couple years now. Hornady is what I will try once i run through the last of the Federal, and have some more Hornady on hand. I do use it in my M&P though.
Originally Posted by SmaSal
Polosih the ramp? is it catching on feeding? if not, i probably wouldn't. I removed slight milling marks in mine then stopped. BUt... up to you. IDK on the polishing of the barrel, mine had (see above comment) some noticeable milling marks, and i did not want to remove as much material as would have been needed for the "soft mirror" look.
I did not need to superglue it on, mine are self stick, but after about 500 rounds, it was loose. Silly me, i pulled. So i cleaned the grip and put a new one on. if/when this comes off, i will probably try the internal stop done by filling in part of the frame with epoxy/pc-7 etc.
This might be a silly question, but what is this eraser trick you're referring to? I haven't heard of it.
Congrats on the new purchase! Got any pictures yet? Let us know how it shoots!
I have for sure not heard of the epoxy trick?? Sounds a little complicated. Try Hornady's for sure. I think you will enjoy them. My Glock 19 rips and roles through them and the recoil is almost nil from the glock so I know they will help with the p11 also.
I will hold off on the polishing for a bit and see if anyone else has tried it.
Rccola, if you just google "whites p11 trigger stop trick" you will find what we are talking about. However I will be trying the cabinet stopper modification for sure. Sounds much better than an eraser.
the nice thing on the cabinet stopper is it is clear and hardly shows.
If you want info on the epoxy fix, pm me and i will find the link. I haven't done it yet, but should make for a VERY clean overtravel fix. ANd my experience is that helps A LOT with this trigger.
I found the link via google for the epoxy trick. Looks very good. I will need some serious trigger time and cleaning time to be familiar enough with the gun to attempt this. But thank you for pointing this out to me. I will try it down the road for sure. I figure I will give it a few 100 rounds or so.
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