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    Hey Brevard, I wouldn't trust much from someone "bragging" about a kel tec. Yes they can make very a very good BUG but its far from a Nighthawk Custom, Les Baer or any super-quality firearm. I have some friends that swear by them. Others that can't stand them. As for them being rare in anyway, I'd say their as readily available as a set of knumb-chucks at a flea market

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    i've been looking into .380's and this one is one of interest. i've come across no shortage of shops that have this piece in stock. just the ammo lol.

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    I had a keltec .380. I shot it a few times and sold it. My hands were too big or the gun was too small. The slide was real tight and the feed unreliable. The only thing I liked was it concealed easily. I know many of you love them, but here is one who doesn't.

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    Availability must be improving or buyers are trading them in.
    I went to my LGD this past weekend and he had three used ones for $200 a piece. I picked one up and noticed how small in the hand they are. Too small. Than I noticed the rust on the bottom bar and crud inside the mag opening. Didn't look like it was ever cleaned and why a bar that rusts?
    I've read about the bite and not being much fun to shoot. Might explain why he had three. To each his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brevard View Post
    He said to get them in the .380 not neccessarily that color. He also tried to tell me someone offered him $450 for it and he would take it.
    Sorry buddy, but your friend does not have a clue as to what he is talking about. I bought mine new for 313$ and it is a two-tone. I put about four magazines thru it today as a matter of fact. I hate it when some guy does not know crap about a particular gun or just guns in general, but tries to tell you all about it.

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    What frequently happens, particularly with a tiny pistol, is that some inexperienced guy buys one, tries to shoot it, limp-wrists it into malfunction, can't hit anything with it (because mini-pistols are hard to shoot well), and finally sells it off as a malfunctioning, inaccurate, piece of...
    But, of course, the real problem is the guy's lack of experience and poor technique.

    That's where all of the cheap, used P3ATs (and other mini-pistols) are coming from.
    The tip-off is the dirt and lack of maintenance.

    They're actually pretty easy to shoot effectively, if you have previous experience with pistols in general, and if you apply a strong grip and really good trigger technique.
    My wife, Jean, who stands under five feet high and weighs 100 pounds fully dressed and soaking wet, really likes her P3AT. She has no trouble shooting it well.
    But I taught her very good pistol technique, using a full-size 1911, first.

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    P3at .... dime a dozen around where i live, can go to local internet classifieds, that sells a little of everthing, and buy 3 or 4 any given day..........in the 200 dollar range for good used.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    What frequently happens, particularly with a tiny pistol, is that some inexperienced guy buys one, tries to shoot it, limp-wrists it into malfunction, can't hit anything with it (because mini-pistols are hard to shoot well), and finally sells it off as a malfunctioning, inaccurate, piece of...
    But, of course, the real problem is the guy's lack of experience and poor technique.

    That's where all of the cheap, used P3ATs (and other mini-pistols) are coming from.
    The tip-off is the dirt and lack of maintenance.

    They're actually pretty easy to shoot effectively, if you have previous experience with pistols in general, and if you apply a strong grip and really good trigger technique.
    My wife, Jean, who stands under five feet high and weighs 100 pounds fully dressed and soaking wet, really likes her P3AT. She has no trouble shooting it well.
    But I taught her very good pistol technique, using a full-size 1911, first.
    You are 100% correct. I don't ask more from my little P3AT than it can give me. I would only be using it from 7 or so yards and closer, so that is why I shoot and practice from that distance. Firm hold, aim over the top of the slide, put em' in there. Works for me.

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