KT P-3AT Belt Clip

Sweeeeet...

Took about 3 minutes to install, including a sticking pin... Looks nice, does not effect grip at all, as it lays right along the trigger finger.

Concealment: WOW. The only piece of gun above your waist band is the tip of the frame where the clip mounts. It is NOT fast to draw, but it is ultra-deep concealment wise. I'd feel fine wearing this with a tucked dark shirt just slightly bloused. Untucked t-shirts are perfect. Comfort at 4-o'clock is almost forgetable-comfortable!!! You WILL forget it's there. No poking, no printing... just a black clip over or under your black belt. Looks like you have a clipped knife on.

You can wear it clipped in the top of a cargo pocket, flap concealing the clip. You can clip it inside a pair of shorts with a drawstring and jog. You could probably clip it inside a suit coat pocket... It's that light.

And... the backup mag is the size of a Bic lighter...

Not a lot of fire-power. Not a lot of speed. But the first rule... HAVE a gun.

Belt Clip: $11
Pinky Hook mag-floor-plate: $7 (not shipped, they sent two spare mags by mistake)
Spare mag: $21

Great combo...

JW

I put the clip on mine but hardly ever use it. Most of the time I carry in a Don Hume pocket holster. You will forget you got it with you. Feels about like a wallet in what ever pocket you put it in. :smt023

Good write up. I was actually thinking of picking one up this weekend for my P3AT.

I will caution you on one thing. I have the same set up on my P11 and simply love it. I don't even own a holster. I have found that sliding the clip on and off your belt will scratch most belts. My solution is to slip it over the pants waist band and behind the belt. This makes it even harder to see and does not affect carry at all. Your P3AT is much lighter than my
P11 so you should be able to do this easier than I can.

Tom

I use the same configuration with running shorts, when I run outside, anyway. In regular clothes I use a pocket holster. The clip does not interfere with the pocket holster.

Not suprising to most

+1 Mike (except for the running thing)

As I have said before, somewhere around here, the only drawback I can see to a Kel-Tec clip or a Clipdraw is the "reholstering" difficulty.
Putting a "clipped" pistol away takes extra care and attention, which may or may not become an issue, depending upon circumstances.
I don't think that it can be done without looking, and doing it safely requires extra practice.
That said, my wife thinks that the Clipdraw (much like the Kel-Tec clip) is a very good thing, and she recommends it highly.

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Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1

As I have said before, somewhere around here, the only drawback I can see to a Kel-Tec clip or a Clipdraw is the "reholstering" difficulty.
Putting a "clipped" pistol away takes extra care and attention, which may or may not become an issue, depending upon circumstances.
I don't think that it can be done without looking, and doing it safely requires extra practice.

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It's pretty easy with elastic-waist running shorts. :mrgreen:

Since I don't practice speed-re-holstering... taking extra care to stuff any loaded gun in my pants is not an issue!

I now have the beltclip on the Kel-Tec, and the ClipDraw on my XD9SC.

Both are fantastic. The last two days, I've carried the Kel-Tec IWB with a tucked in shirt. Clipping to the waist band, with the clip UNDER the belt, works best. The gun all but disappears, and with the shirt tucked loosely, it completely disappears. The belt-less carry is no issue, since the KT is so light anyway. I carry right at 12 o'clock, wth the clip right next to my belt buckle. The gun is soooo small, seated wear is just fine. Adjustments look just like you're fixing your belt buckle.

To draw, I just find the front of the triggerguard my fingers, and give it a little push up. The waist band tension holds it until I slide my hand up hook my thumb behind the frame, and draw. It takes one hand, and maybe a 1/2 second slower than a holster draw. Like everything else... practice, practice, practice, with an unloaded pistol...

The back-up mag is the size of a pack of gum or a lighter... shorter and thinner than my Razor phone, and 1/3 as wide. Left front pocket carry is perfect.

Buy the whole combo. When nothing else works, you could carry this in a speedo...

Jeff

Not Enough Room In My Speedo. I Wear Them Two Sizes To Small For Dramatic Effect...

Dont Ask About The Thong.

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Originally Posted by JeffWard

Since I don't practice speed-re-holstering... taking extra care to stuff any loaded gun in my pants is not an issue!...

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Jeff;
Time and speed are not the issues here. Attention is.
There will come a time when, for one of many possible reasons, you will need to "reholster" your clip-equipped pistol while still paying close and careful attention to your surroundings.
At that time, the fact that you have to carefully "look the pistol into its 'holster'" will be a decided liability.
If you give a few minutes thought to this concept, you'll see what I'm trying to get you to understand.

I understand what Steve is saying, but I think that deep concealment sometimes overrides quick one-handed holstering capability. The clip also offers the ability to attach to something like running shorts, where using a conventional holster is impossible.

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Originally Posted by Mike Barham

I understand what Steve is saying, but I think that deep concealment sometimes overrides quick one-handed holstering capability. The clip also offers the ability to attach to something like running shorts, where using a conventional holster is impossible.

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As previously stated, my wife Jean agrees with you completely, Mike.
For several reasons, Jean can't wear a holster-and-belt combination. As you already know, we're exploring (and reviewing) clip-on holsters that can be used without a belt. One of the best we've found so far, she says, is the Clipdraw (which is essentially the same as the Kel-Tec clip).

Since your post... I've gotten pretty damn good at "reholstering" without looking. I bent the clip out just the oh-so-smallest bit... Slips right back in, by feel.

But like Mike said... The purpose is ultra-deep concealment, not speed or simplicity. For it's purpose, it's exceptional. And it still works fine with my Uncle Mikes pocket holster.

Thanks for the heads up though....

We all practice shooting... Not many practice drawing, and reholstering...

That's what half-time during Men's Olympic Basketball is for...

JW

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...Not many practice drawing, and reholstering...That's what half-time during Men's Olympic Basketball is for...

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...and intermissions at the theater and concerts, too.
:anim_lol: :anim_lol: :anim_lol: :smt033

Well I picked my clip up today and think it's going to work out very well; especially when I'm out for a run, doing yard work, or just bumming around the house in athletic shorts and a tee shirt. The run and yard work tests will be tomorrow, it's passing the bumming around test with flying colors right now. :smt033

Id worry that the clip would come off and my gun would go tumbling dwn my pants leg. Its only taped on....right? HG

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Originally Posted by hemmigremmie

Id worry that the clip would come off and my gun would go tumbling dwn my pants leg. Its only taped on....right? HG

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Not on the P3AT. You replace the current rear frame pin with a longer one (included with the clip), so it's held in place by that. It's pretty secure.

What Todd said. I've done six-mile runs with my clipped-on P3AT with no issues.

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Originally Posted by Tscott

I will caution you on one thing. I have the same set up on my P11 and simply love it. I don't even own a holster. I have found that sliding the clip on and off your belt will scratch most belts. My solution is to slip it over the pants waist band and behind the belt. This makes it even harder to see and does not affect carry at all. Your P3AT is much lighter than my
P11 so you should be able to do this easier than I can.

Tom

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Also, get used to shooting with it. If the little gun jumps a bit in your hand, the clip can dig into your skin and cut you.

Gimmie a websire for these belt clips. Tnx, HG

I personally wear a clip carry only around my property and immediate area. I have had the clip ride up and almost out of my pants at the store. I'm sure there are technques to make it more secure, but I prefer my 640 "slick" in a good holster when out in public. The clip is indispensible though when just hanging around close to home. I just clip it on my pants or into my back pocket and it is easy to take the gun off and put back on when changing modes of activity. The only gun I have the ClipCarry on is my S&W 60 and it is my dedicated "knock about" gun at home and never sees a holster.

I don't think it is the complete answer to replacing a holster but it does have its place when putting on a holster just isn't appealing or sometimes even possible (Sweat gear, beltless slacks, etc.)

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Originally Posted by JeffWard

Belt Clip: $11
Pinky Hook mag-floor-plate: $7 (not shipped, they sent two spare mags by mistake)
Spare mag: $21

Great combo...

JW

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I picked up the same combo at a gun show this past weekend... however i was given the wrong side clip.. (i needed a right side, they gave me a left side).. looking forward to receiving my replacement.

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Originally Posted by hemmigremmie

Gimmie a websire for these belt clips. Tnx, HG

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You get the Kel-Tec clip directly from Kel-Tec, at: http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/
The Clipdraw (which works on Kel-Tec pistols) is found at: http://www.clipdraw.com/

The Kel-Tec clip attaches mechanically, with one or two special machine-screw-ended pins (depending upon which pistol you have).
The "Universal" Clipdraw attaches with a very reliable adhesive. It doesn't let go until you do a specific thing to it to make it let go.

In my way of thinking, the Clipdraw version may be a better choice, since you can mount it anywhere on the gun. The Kel-Tec clip goes only where they want you to put it, and, on the P3AT, that location is not the best place for a clip.

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Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1

In my way of thinking, the Clipdraw version may be a better choice, since you can mount it anywhere on the gun. The Kel-Tec clip goes only where they want you to put it, and, on the P3AT, that location is not the best place for a clip.

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There are a couple of clips available that I have found...

there is the model that attaches with 2 screws and the model that attaches with one screw... i prefer the 2 screw version as it keeps enough of the gun above my waistline for easy access to draw.

1 screw attaches at the very rear of the slide:
http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/cart2/ima...%20BRfinal.jpg

2 screw attaches at the side of the weapon midway down:
http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/cart2/images/P-380.jpg