I don't see both pistols??

I got mine recently. The serial number indicates it was made in January 2008. I now have over 200 rounds through it. I've found that as long as I limit my range time to around fifty rounds I don't have reliability problems. After the fiftieth round I tend to have occasional failures to eject which I attribute to fatigue from the pounding the light pistol gives to my hand. The PF-9 rides in a Galco Sto-N-Go IWB holster. The PF-9 is so light and slim that, after a while, I don't even notice its there. Its that comfortable to carry.

Originally Posted by hambone111

I don't see both pistols??

The PF9 is under the P3AT. You can see a little of the muzzle end and the bottom of the grip of the PF9.

Originally Posted by 69Roadrunner

I got mine recently. The serial number indicates it was made in January 2008. I now have over 200 rounds through it. I've found that as long as I limit my range time to around fifty rounds I don't have reliability problems. After the fiftieth round I tend to have occasional failures to eject which I attribute to fatigue from the pounding the light pistol gives to my hand. The PF-9 rides in a Galco Sto-N-Go IWB holster. The PF-9 is so light and slim that, after a while, I don't even notice its there. Its that comfortable to carry.

What about the belt clip thingys they sell? Read about or had any experiences with those?

Hey Charlie I think your good to go now if you want one. The frist ones out had slide issuses but they got that ironed out. Just remember these little guys are for up close and personal and are not range guns. Their easy to have on you at all times. It also takes a frim grip to make these guns perfrom the way they should. Good luck.

Originally Posted by Baldy

Hey Charlie I think your good to go now if you want one. The frist ones out had slide issuses but they got that ironed out. Just remember these little guys are for up close and personal and are not range guns. Their easy to have on you at all times. It also takes a frim grip to make these guns perfrom the way they should. Good luck.

Fifteen feet or less would be my guess! I handled the P3AT and as much as I like the concept, I couldn't feel good about the short grip. I could barely get two fingers under the trigger guard! I just wanted more grip 'cause I knew it would be a sharp recoil.

Originally Posted by Charlie

What about the belt clip thingys they sell? Read about or had any experiences with those?

Haven't had any experience with the belt clip. I think Mike is thinking about putting one on when he gets his. As for the grip - I have medium sized hands and my pinky doesn't grip the pistol at all. I tried the pinky extension, but my hand is just large enough that the pinky doesn't get a good grip on the pistol. I decided to take it off since it added to the profile and made printing easier. A good two-handed grip makes shooting the PF-9 accurately and reliably easier. Still, the recoil is strong and it will give your trigger finger and your hand a workout. There is some "trigger slap" which some say can be cured by installing a trigger shoe. I'm not interested in adding anything more to what is essentially a close and personal SD weapon.

My p3at has been very reliable but after getting a PF9, I found I could pocket carry it almost all the time if I dress right-even summer. Sand around the grip where the inside of your thumb rests and add a rubber slip on grip and it's fun to shoot. Each shot produces 350 fpe vs less than 200 fpe in 3at. It's usually back up to FNP9M or Commander but sometimes it's primary w/3at as BUG. Shot it with a friend who had the little Kahr and both of us shot the PF9 better.

I have had mine for a couple of weeks now and love it. It is a new 2008 make with all the bugs worked out. It is deadly accurate. I highly recommend one.

My neice just bought one and I took her shooting last night. She is an extreme novice, I on the other hand am experienced with many types of guns. We fired about 100 rounds of my reloads with a 124 gr flatnose bullet and experinced only one problem. She was shooting one handed and was possibly fatigued and there was a failure to return to battery. So, I consider this gun reliable. Accuracy was pretty good for this kind of gun. I shot a 6 inch group offhand at 20 yards and she was able to keep most of her shots in the IDPA 8" center at 7 yds, remember she is new to shooting. I'm impressed for the price she paid. I told her that if she didn't like it, I'd buy it from her.

Originally Posted by Charlie

As the title indicates............... I've been reading the threads, posts, positives and negatives about the PF9 and some gun tests by magazine folks, etc. Seems the biggest problems are with the first batches Kel Tec put out and they are being straightened out slowly but surely. I was impressed with the size, the 9mm caliber, and the price. I'm gonna' hold out a little while longer and watch what develops but it looks good right now. Lot of our members have the P3AT and really like it. I'm just not ready to depend on the .380 for self defense. I didn't realize how small the PF9 was until I saw the comparison picture (as shown below). And Mike I can't believe you would use a belt clip!


A comparison below with the P3AT on top of the PF9!

LOL... You forgot to add: photo courtesy of gunblast.com

I have had mine for 8 months with a Hogue slip on grip and the pinky extension. Great fit and works great with 9mm I feel a little better than with my .32 or .380. The grip is great for my wife and she is getting her own soon. Other guns were too large for her hands, this one is just right for her. Buy one and enjoy!!

I use it in a SmartCarry holster and works great!! Also have a small Uncle Mikes pocket holster that works well in an inside coat pocket.

That's probably my next gun.