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    Seecamp Vs Keltec

    In .380 which one of these would you choose
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    Never seen a Seecamp in a gun shop or gun show. Bought P3AT about 2-3 years ago for around $200 and don't have a clue how many rounds been through it but WWB and DPX work fine in it. Once you learn sights, polish it up some, it's been reliable and accurate. Gun dealer friend bought one for himself last summer. He didn't have time to break it in so he gave it to me with 100 rounds fmj and 20 rounds DPX. It ate them all without a bobble right out of box. Some folks have had problems with them but I haven't. Biggest problem I have with it is I forget I'm carrying it sometimes.

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    I can't say anything about Seecamp, but we are now a 2 Kel Tec family.

    I've got 643 rounds through mine with four failure to ejects in the first 50, and no problems since. 3Reds has 63 rounds through hers with one failure to go into battery sometime before we hit 25, and no other problems.

    Great little close up shooter.

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    I like the KelTec, and that's what I own. It's light, flat, and inexpensive. On a practical level, it is as good or better than the Seecamp for one-third the price.

    Then again, I also carry a Glock in preference to the 1911 that just sits in the safe.
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    that's what i wanted to hear
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barham View Post
    I like the KelTec, and that's what I own. It's light, flat, and inexpensive. On a practical level, it is as good or better than the Seecamp for one-third the price.

    Then again, I also carry a Glock in preference to the 1911 that just sits in the safe.
    The Seecamp .32 only costs about $100 to $150 more. Look up Seecamp.com

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    I have owned both. Sold the Seecamp, kept the Kel-Tec. Lighter, because of the plastic frame. It also has some minimal sights, while the Seecamp has none, just a smooth rounded top. The manual for the Seecamp says "you don't need sights, just point." That's an interesting opinion, but if I am carrying a mousegun, I plan on shooting nothing but head shots, and for those, I need a sight picture of some kind. "Yeah, but it's designed for up close muzzle contact encounters." Yeah, but I am not good at predicting how far away the bad guy is going to be. Maybe he won't have read the manual, and will have the bad manners to try to kill me from 30 feet away instead of 3 feet away.

    I choose Kel-Tec. I wish it had better sights, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akr View Post
    The Seecamp .32 only costs about $100 to $150 more. Look up Seecamp.com
    The thread is about .380s, not .32s. Please read the OP.

    Seecamp .380 MSRP - $795
    KelTec P3AT MSRP - $324

    Okay, not quite a third, but considerably less than half!

    Anyway, my P3AT cost me all of $214 NIB. I haven't even seen a Seecamp .380 for sale, probably because the waiting time for delivery was hovering around a year, at least before I left the States. With that kind of demand, I wouldn't expect much in the way of discounts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by milquetoast View Post
    The manual for the Seecamp says "you don't need sights, just point." That's an interesting opinion, but if I am carrying a mousegun, I plan on shooting nothing but head shots, and for those, I need a sight picture of some kind. "Yeah, but it's designed for up close muzzle contact encounters." Yeah, but I am not good at predicting how far away the bad guy is going to be. Maybe he won't have read the manual, and will have the bad manners to try to kill me from 30 feet away instead of 3 feet away.
    This is a truly excellent post. Sums up my thoughts on this issue precisely.
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    Excuse me, Mike. I'm just a 68 year old f@rt that's beginning to show some signs of old age, and I'm not quite as sharp as I used to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barham View Post
    ... I also carry a Glock in preference to the 1911 that just sits in the safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaskan_Viking View Post
    Blasphemy! there is only one God, Browning, and Cooper is his prophet! Infidel, you most reject the pagan plastic, bow down to Browning and accept Cooper, or burn in eternal hellfire!

    Lo Browning is wise, most merciful...
    Haaaaaaaaa!

    To add to my heresy, I actually relied on a 1911 for almost twenty years before I threw in the towel and went to the Dark Side! I am convinced beyond all doubt that Glocks are simply more reliable pistols, and reliability is Job #1 in a fighting pistol. Forum member Old Padawan was present for my conversion.

    But hey, even Col. Cooper admitted that the Glock was an "adequate" tool for fighting. I believe one of his daughters even carries one. Maybe I can yet be saved.
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