Never seen a Seecamp in a gun shop or gun show. Bought P3AT about 2-3 years ago for around $200 and don't have a clue how many rounds been through it but WWB and DPX work fine in it. Once you learn sights, polish it up some, it's been reliable and accurate. Gun dealer friend bought one for himself last summer. He didn't have time to break it in so he gave it to me with 100 rounds fmj and 20 rounds DPX. It ate them all without a bobble right out of box. Some folks have had problems with them but I haven't. Biggest problem I have with it is I forget I'm carrying it sometimes.