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    Plr-16

    thoughts from anyone that owns a plr16?

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    have one, love it. no problems with it so far. more accurate than i expected. it feeds with any of my AR mags without a single issue in the 1600 rounds i have through it so far, mostly the cheap silver bear brand. i have to say that i've been real impressed with the keltec products. i'm going for a SU-16c next. a small warning though, the PLR-16 is louder that you think. it will definatly wake up the neighbors. also, i have great doubts about the defensive capabilities of the 223 caliber with a barrel this short (not that the 223 is a real impressive caliber for that to begin with). it is a fun gun for cheap. get it before they ban 'em.

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    I don't have one, but as big dutchman astutely pointed out, the ballistics of .223 out of that short barrel will be rather unimpressive. Even the 14.5" M4 barrel makes the .223 sort of borderline, though honestly I haven't heard any complaints from our guys who have used them to shoot people.
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    in a military view, ammunition weight per capacity is probably a consideration, as is longer range accuracy. from a home defense veiw (i assume you aren't looking to conceal carry the PLR-16) the ammunition weight and long range performance probably aren't a big deciding factor. a 12 gauge shell is a bit heavier, but also more effective on a close range human target. outside out defense, there are other good uses for this handgun. i have taken plenty of squirells and woodchucks with my PLR, along with more cardboard targets than i could clean and cook. a good gun for either purpose. and it just looks pretty bad ass.

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    comment and a question

    thanks for the feedback guys

    yea the soldiers aren't complaining about the cartridge and there is more to that bullet breaking up than meets the eye

    the gun really does look bad ass cool - now that it is coming in 22LR i think the fun quotient is about to go way up
    i can't imagine a design problem with the plr22 since this company has made the 223 cal first and the 22lr really isn't going to stress the materials either

    Q: what sight would be good for these guns - i know a lot of eye relief but i have been into handguns for life and have never owned a sight
    i have read about aimpoint and others from the articles on the ar15

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    If I wanted a mall ninja gun, I would of course equip it with a mall ninja sight: Aimpoint, EOTech, etc. The non-magnifying red dot sights have unlimited eye relief.

    One technique for shooting these stockless rifles it to affix a single-point sling to the back of the gun. When shooting, push the gun out far enough that the sling is tense. This will help stabilize the stockless rifle and aid in accurate shooting.
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    saw 3 different plr16's today at a gun show
    man they really cool

    CAN'T WAIT TILL LATER THIS SPRING WHEN THE PLR22 lr COMES OUT
    i am going to trick it out with the EOtech red dot sight , front rails and a front verticle grip with light

    also saw the new ruger pistol with the front bipod - it's ok but i'm guessing the keltec will sell more

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    Eotechs are expensive to put on a 22 - but, enjoy

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    yea
    but what's money if you can't enjoy it

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    Quote Originally Posted by hideit View Post
    yea
    but what's money if you can't enjoy it
    Explain that to my wife!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hideit View Post
    CAN'T WAIT TILL LATER THIS SPRING WHEN THE PLR22 lr COMES OUT
    i am going to trick it out with the EOtech red dot sight , front rails and a front verticle grip with light
    Do not do this. You will be violating federal law and creating a prohibited "Any Other Weapon" in the eyes of the BATFE. This requires a tax stamp and all the other NFA red tape.

    More reading here: http://ar15builder.net/Articles.php?...tent1186777410.
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    OH MY
    thanks for the info
    i read the article and had no idea
    Guess that is why kel tec doesn't have it on their web site as an accessory item....

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    The 5.56 is often dismissed as a defensive round but as a former Army Medic I've seen the results of wounds from one. A little hole going in the thigh and a baseball size hole coming out the other side shattering the femur on its way through. It may be a .22 on steroids but it can cause great damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tnoisaw View Post
    The 5.56 is often dismissed as a defensive round but as a former Army Medic I've seen the results of wounds from one. A little hole going in the thigh and a baseball size hole coming out the other side shattering the femur on its way through. It may be a .22 on steroids but it can cause great damage.
    That is very true...from rifle-length barrels. The 5.56mm offers very diminishing returns as the barrel gets shorter.

    I very much like 5.56mm in a rifle. It's much less attractive when fired from a pistol barrel.
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    i'm going to have to go back and read the one and only magazine review on the plr16 to check their results and calculate the muzzle energy

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    It's not just the energy. 5.56mm/.223 bullets are designed to do certain things at certain speeds, and when they drop below that velocity, they just don't perform.
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