Keltec 3AT is a .380. Isn't the Glock 26 a 9mm? If you find them to be equivelent in your shorts, then go with the 9mm.

The Keltec is very light weight, and I find it to be accurate only at close distances. Its an inexpensive gun and I rely on mine as a back-up (as in when I can't take something bigger with me).

My Keltec has been 100% reliable.

Still, if you want a primary gun with more oomph and you can conceal the G26 with no problms (I think it is a fatter gun and heavier and holds more rounds and carries a more potent round), then go with the Glock.

You already mentioned about the Sig: It's like the Glock, but its a .380 round instead of a 9mm.

WM

Originally Posted by Alpacino

Okay guys,

you might of read on my other threads, but I am contemplating on getting the Keltec 3At vs the Glock 26 or even both. I usually only wear elastic waist shorts or track pants and sweat pants for comfort. Will the Keltec with a pocket holster be to heavy for my shorts?

And from reading some of the threads how really dependable is the 3AT? would you trust your life on it? another option I am looking at is getting the Sig Sauer 232 .380 But weight and size wise it's pretty similar to the Glock 26 just not as bulky.

Need some advise!

Any Kel-Tecs - I believe are backup guns only. Keltec 3At vs the Glock 26. That's the same as Night vs Day. Go with the one that will never fail and if you got the change buy the other for backup. and please don't ask me which.

The PF-9 is early afternoon vs night. Just for the record

Why aren't you looking at the new PF9? That might be a better choice for you and the 2nd generation ones seem to be reliable. They like to use the public as their testing tool but they always take care of you. With the cilp they offer it would work as a IWB. The clip is under the P-11 accessories.

You will have a hard time with the glock if you plan on carry with elastic. From the sounds of what you wear I think your a big guy. Was I right or wrong??? As the wandering man pointed out the range is short for the Kel-tecs but if you get both you will enjoy shooting the kel-tec. At first I did not like the way they shot and when I got serious about my training and practicing drop and change with the Kel-Tec I really got into the little guy. I enjoy shooting the p32 the most and bought that for fun. Last week I shot the P3AT from 20 yards at a big silhouette head and it had a two foot drop. Forgot what load it was. If you end up having to use one get familier with the rate of drop just in case it's the only pistol that is working. Let us know what you get.

Does the 3AT come with a mag extender? like pierce grip?

Also what is this fluff and buff for the ramp mean?

The 26 and the P3AT comprised my primary carry duo before I deployed. Both are excellent pistols, but fulfill rather different missions.

As the others have pointed out, the P3AT is good for "deep concealment" when you can't carry a bigger gun. For example, I've carried mine in swim trunks, running shorts, a tailored suit, and my Class A uniform. My P3AT has been completely reliable, by the way.

The Glock is more of a concealable general-purpose defense pistol. It really needs to be carried in a belt or shoulder holster most of the time. I have, however, shoehorned it into the front pocket of my Columbia cargo shorts. Forget about the pockets of jeans or casual/dress slacks, though.

A gun that might split the difference is the Kahr PM9.

I'd pass on the P232. It's obsolete in my view, since you can buy more powerful guns - 9mms and .40s - that are smaller than the P232, which is very big for its .380 power.

I've had the p3at for a few yrs. I just cant seem to go back to carrying larger frame (.38,9x18) pistols. Spoiled I guess. I carried my Bursa .380 thunder for a while.Just love this little .380. I know there are a heap of those who would disagree with me and want the bign's.

with the clothing that you said you wear then go with the 3AT
I have a G26 and it is way too heavy for the clothes you mentioned
EMPTY
3at - 8 oz
G26 - 22 oz
kahr pm9 - 16oz
keltec PF9 - 15 oz
thus the weight in your clothing would make it uncomfortable
however i first bought the g26 (everybody should have one)
and then my next is the 3AT at the next gun show
39,784 3at's were sold last year - i have heard that they need to have 200-300 rounds put thru them and then they are 100% ok