PM9 here, 870 rounds down range with no problems.
My Kahr PM9 has been 100% reliable since the first round I put through it. But I guess I cheated a bit, because I bought it directly from Cylinder & Slide gunsmiths after they worked their magic on it. This is one VERY expensive CCW weapon, but it will conceal anywhere and I'd stake my life on it. It eats up everything I feed it. I carry Double Tap 147-grain 9mm's and don't feel like I'm underpowered. Ever.
PM9 here, 870 rounds down range with no problems.
Not so happy with my PM9. Recent purchase and shot about 3-400 rounds. It continues to stick the top round of each mag into the ramp when first racking, so off to the factory. They sent it back with all kinds of stuff done: replaced extractor, polished ramp... Unfortunately now it still does the above, and the advice from Kahr is to download one round. That's unreasonable IMHO. 6 is few enough, 5's not making me happy. ALSO, the slide now sticks something awful after press checking and easing it forward. ALSO, the chambered round indicator is now broken: it used to be flush when empty and protruding when loaded. Now it's half-way all the time. About three weeks ago the Kahr rep told my store they'd replace it with a new one, and I told him that would be fine, as long as they take it on store credit for the original value. Still waiting for Kahr to "finalize" the return...
I find the mag springs are VERY tight and can cause the top round to shift forward and not feed correctly. But after 300 rounds, that likely isn't the problem. Hopefully Kahr will make it right.
Not sure when Kahr planned to make it right, but Sportsmans Warehouse figured 2 months was long enough and gave me full replacement value on store credit. Bully for them! But not so good for Kahr... Although I'm sure S&W would be worlds apart on CS, I opted to just go G26 for daily carry. Plus it's a tad bit smaller than the M&P9c which helps when throwing it in the pocket (unchambered, of course). The Glock sure is 100% more comforting, if slightly less comfortable, than the Kahr.
I did a lot of forum research before I bought my PM9. Mine would FTRB during the first 200 rounds. I had read of others having the same problem on other forums before I purchased it. I called Kahr and they sent me a new barrel and recoil spring/guide rod assembly. It was shipped the day I called and I had it three days later. Great customer service. It has not had any failures since.
I own 3 Kahrs one P45, A K40, and A new T9. I would bet my life and yours on any of those 3 bad boys. I like them better than glocks.
Yes I have had my share of glocks nothing wrong with them just like the Kahrs better. I mean 100 yds busting pieces of clay birds with a P45 and a witness to boot to the fact man what a pistol.
Adjusting the windage and elevation feels like adjusting the laser on a childs toy. The thing is flimsy and of poor quality. Won't hold a zero after removal or after a few dozen rounds fired.
Sold mine a week after buying it.
However, if a QUALITY company could make a similar model, it would be great and I would gladly pay double for it. The "touch on" sensor is really cool.
Until they can up the quality to something more solid than that of a plastic toy made in Taiwan that's sold at the Dollar Store, save your hard earned money.
Would I do it again. Probably not. I have looked for after market products and although I have found what I needed, it has been more of pain than I would like. For instance, I called the number 1 shooting range and gun store in my area to see if they if had a Fobus holster for it and they didn't bother to look it up. They just said they didn't carry anything for a Kahr. I figured out the Fobus number holster I needed and it's the one that fits 1911's also. I imagine they had one at the store, but they didn't do enough Kahr business to know any better. Same thing on other holster companies and after markets. The bigger companies have a few holsters, but not a selection of styles and choices like for the Glock, XD, Smith and others. Even a the tiny Keltec gets more respect.
Maybe it will change, but when I look for another carry gun, it will be something more popular that has a greater range of choices and a price more in line with the other fine weapons.
Too bad to. It really is a fine weapon.
Purchased PM9 in December..followed manufacturers recommendation of
" breaking-in " with 200 rounds.........gun performed flawlessly. This gun replaces a P3AT ( Kel Tec ) for my carry weapon.......the Kel-Tec was very unreliabe. Another of my carry weapons is the Smith model 638 Airweight. This is a beautiful piece of equipment that will always go "BANG" when ths triger is pulled.
Picked up my first Kahr last year, a K9. Loved the trigger, but was too heavy for daily carry. 100% reliable. Traded for a CW9 last month. Again 100% reliable, and just added a PM9 last week and finished the 200 round breakin... no problems of any kind and very accurate! Always thought Kahr cost too much, but now I believe they are worth every penny and would buy another without hesitation!
I have the CW9 and it has been flawless since the first shot. I have put a variety of ammo through it ranging from lead handloads to Gold Dot 124gr. +P and have yet to have a failure of any type. It currently has a little over 450 rounds. After shooting mine, my dad went out to buy one and ended up with the PM9. He has put away his Glock 26 and SW scandium to carry the Kahr. Ask a variety of dealers and I think you will find that the Kahrs have a very solid reputation for reliability.
like ozark10, i 2 just got rid of my p3at ,thought i was going to keep this one a long time but ,i got tired of reliability issues ftf's, stovepipes etc, i went for the pm9, i havent even taken it to the range yet but i am already noticing the 1st round issue about,the failing to to go into battery, the only way mine chambers right with a full mag is if the slide is locked back and i ,and quick slide release it, if you manualy pull slide back to chamber it doesnt fully chamber, dont know if any body makes a exxcellent pocket sized semi?
If you read your manual you will see that Kahr tells you to use the slide release to chamber your first round. If you do it the way the manufacturer tells you too I would bet your problem goes away. The Kahr is very tight when new but will loosen up after the break-in period. My experience with them has been very good, my local Sportsmans Warehouse can't even keep the CW9 in stock.
Had the barrel replaced on my PM9 for penning (yet it worked fine)
New barrel and gun shoot fine at the range yesterday (36 rounds)
? Do any of you have both the pm9 and the all steel ones.
Is there a quality difference or not.
100% so far, 300+ rounds ona used PM9.
Just wanted to let everyone know that I decided that I would take the plunge and get a Kahr. I picked up a MK9 with night sights and love it. It only has 400 rds through it and hasn't jammed once. I'm not crazy about the trigger since I like single action triggers but I can live with a DAO trigger in a gun this small. Kahr's are expensive but I think you get what you pay for since my MK9 is so well finished on the inside. Now it's time to shop for a good IWB holster.
I have a K40 98 Elite. All steel, all good!
I've probably put close to 1200 rounds thru it. I carry it when I need something a bit smaller. The only thing that I had a problem with was the mag would randomly drop out of the gun while firing. This was um.. how shall we say... a very very bad thing for a defensive pistol. I called the guys at Kahr, they sent me a new mag release and spring, no charge, arrived in 3 days. Works like a charm. I haven't had a single problem since then.
I tend to prefer the all steel Kahrs over the polymers simply because .40 has a little bit of a 'snappy' recoil. Tried an all steel one with the wood grips, all I can say is I much prefer the Hogue grips on mine to the wood ones.
You'll enjoy it, they are great little guns. I've heard about a lot of little small stuff that is easily fixed. Just make sure you function test it to about 400-500 rounds before you depend on it for your life. That goes for just about any gun though.
I have just got a new CW .40 a few months back, first 30 rds was like a orgasm in my hand, then the slide started locking back EVERY round. I could get it to fire right, maybe 50% of the time if I held it hard enough to fatigue myself after 2 mags, and fought the recoil. Physically pushing the gun forward while it kicked. Sent to to kahr, they replaced basically everything except the frame. Shot maybe 200 rounds out of it and same problem started, applied a little extra oil and got the rest of my 50rds out no problem. I do carry it, but have a hard time saying I'd trust it with my life.