Is Kahr PM9 Junk, Sometimes Junk, Sometimes Great, or always great?
I have a used Kahr PM9 on its way. It is Serial Number IA22xy (left off last two numbers for confidentiality)
It was Purchased New on 02/17/09. I will be the second owner. First owner says he ran though about 500 rounds and has never had a problem.
I talked to two local Virginia Gun Dealers and here is what they said:
Dealer #1 said, "I am ex LE and had two Kahr 9mm pistols, one K9 and the other PM9 and I got rid of them. They couldn't reliably load Hollow Point Rounds and would get caught on the ramp. I don't trust them. He added that he had heard the .40calibers didn't seem to have the problem."
Dealer #2 said, "The Kahr's are junk. You may find some used guns that were made when the quality was good, but the new ones are cheaply manufactured, and are problematic and not worth the money. He added that the .40 calibers seemed to be better."
My Nephew: He owns more handguns than I should say here, but he said, "The Kahr PM9 is the best, most accurate 9mm you can get for concealed carry. It is lightweight, fits easily in my pocket, and is reliable and my favorite carry pistol."
I am getting a very good deal on the PM9, so I am okay with the deal.
Is there specific HP ammo I should avoid with the Kahr PM9?
Do I have a handgun with a serial number in the "reliable range?"
I have heard about the magazine issues....should I be worried about that?
(The serial number is current enough that is should not have the barrel issues.)
Please send comments and your experiences and recommendations, especially related to ammo.
Received new PM9: Love This Gun!
I received the Kahr PM9 and shot my first 90 rounds at the range and verdict is in:
I LOVE THIS GUN!
I shot Winchester Whitebox, USAammo reloaded (mix of casing brands), old Remington UMC, USAammo HP, and Hydra-Shok 124gr +P, and not a single problem. Less recoil than I expected...in fact excellent control. And, the accuracy is amazing for a 3" barrel! The magazine locks in well, the barrel's finish is like I have never seen before. The trigger is smoooooottthhhh, and break is perfect. Racking the slide to do dry fire is easier than I thought it would be but it still annoys me. The inside of the gun doesn't get very dirty like my other auto's, making cleaning easier and less frequent. Love the Night Sights...great sighting. Excellent quality materials and workmanship/mfg.
- The slide release lever is really hard to push;
- The breakdown pin is really tight and requires something like a small screwdriver to get it started;
- Breakdown and re-assembly is more difficult than my other guns. (Getting slide release in and out is tough, and aligning the slide.)
Time will tell if it can't handle other types of ammo, but so far I am happy with this decision.
Pic shows my first 12 shots at 10 yards (30 feet)
Worked through Kahr FTF Issues, Still Love the Kahr...ACCURATE!
I listed the problems I was having with my Kahr under the Kahr reliability thread. But, over 100 rounds of FMJ, and 100 rounds of a variety of different Hollow Points, I am very happy with the Kahr PM9. I am still not very happy about Kahr's stated inability to manually rack the slide, and the problem of loading a magazine when the slide is closed and a HP round will jam on the ramp when racked.
But I found an acceptable workaround: I load a HP round manually and rack the slide by releasing the slide release before I load the magazine. I then load the magazine loaded with HP rounds. Every time I do this procedure, I am able to empty the magazine reliably.
I still would like a safety, but I got a Desantis holster that protects the trigger and the trigger pull is long enough to keep it safe.
I am willing to overlook both of these issues because of the incredible accuracy and portability of this handgun. I can get 2" groupings at 10 yards! I can cut a hole through the 10 target at 6 yards! I can't believe how accurate this little gun is. And, recoil is manageable and double-taps are quick and accurate. With a 7 round mag + 1 in the chamber, it has enough rounds for me. Also, I am not going to use any +P+ ammo in the gun, and although I have tried a variety of +P, I probably won't use any +P ammo. The recoil is significantly more and I can do quicker double-taps on standard ammo. The 147gr standard pressure HP ammo seems perfect for the gun.
Unfortunately my Kahr is out of commission right now: I was at the range and on one shot a casing blew out near the rim and the resulting explosion blew my extractor right out of its socket! The front extractor pin went flying as well. I never did find them. So, I ordered the parts.
I saw a procedure on the web of how to detail-strip the PM9 slide assembly, but should I try to do this myself? Has anyone here detail-stripped it and reassembled successfully? Should I send it back to Kahr or take it to an armorer?
Safety Warning: Do Not EVER use Reloaded rounds in a Kahr PM9
This is now the second round that has exploded inside the chamber and blew out my extractor. The design of the Kahr exposes more of the casing near the rim than other 9mm guns and with reloaded ammo, sometimes causes the casings to break during the firing of the round. In the latest one it also blew out the small polymer cover and the gun needs repair again. This is the second time it has happened to me. I never have seen a problem with this ammo in any of my other two 9mm guns: FNX-9 and Cz 2075 RAMI.
I have NEVER had this problem with new ammo in the Kahr. I will never attempt the use of reloaded for the Kahr weapons.
Here is a picture of one of the rounds that exploded: