The funny thing is my wife says I have little patience. I can be a hot headed Sicilian when I have to. Being in the Corporate arena for over 25 years, you learn some things about Customer service.

I felt as though it would have been counter-productive to go off on them up until now. The end game is I went my PM9 in 100% working condition.

Having said all of that, if I get this gun back and it still has problems, I am afraid I will have to go off on them.

I think if it has to go back again, I will send a video of any failures and send them a box of this range ammo but still demand they send me a new weapon.

Well about 10 minutes ago FedEx just delivered my PM9. The report says, " replaced ejector, mag catch. Lubed test fired good".

I will probably go to the range tomorrow, this should be fun.

Good luck man I hope it works as well as your wifes gun, when its working good it is one sweet weapon!!!!

RCG

I mentioned that I just got my PM9 back from Kahr for the second time. I just got back from the range and I fired the following type and quantity of ammo:

Remington UMC 115g 35 rounds
Fed Hydra Shok 124g 30 rounds
PMC 115g 100 rounds

I had NO ISSUES!!!!!!!.

This is the first trip to the range that was problem free.

The Kahr service report stated that they replaced the Ejector, and the Mag Catch.

After returning from the range I opened it up to clean and lube. Much to my surprise they gave me a totally new slide assembly. I am very happy to have a working PM9 but I don't understand why they wouldn't tell me they gave me a new entire slide assembly?

I now feel confident in using this PM9 as my primary carry weapon.

(Holds breath) Woo Hoo!!!!

Congrat, Steve! Let's just say... "just keep it that way..."

IMHO, part of the (high) price of Kahr is to cover their (high) warranty costs, they just keep replacement the parts .... at the end of the day, one of them will eventually get the problem fixed..

Cool that took a while but I for one am glad you had a trip that had no issues....enjoy!!!

RCG

Thanks for all of the messages through this 5 month ordeal. When I was shooting it yesterday I could feel a difference in the weapon. It was more snappy than in the past. It felt like a new weapon. And like I said when I opened it to clean it, I saw the brand new entire slide assembly. It all makes sense now on why the weapon felt so good at the range.

I have to say this about Kahr service, they are FAST. I sent this weapon to them on Tuesday and I had it back on Friday. Shawn even called my house to tell me what they found.

I could have sent this weapon in earlier, but all along I was thinking it just needs a good break-in to fix this. So I guess if someone is having problems after 200 rounds, just send it in.

Glad to hear they have taken care of you, SteveS.

I called them back this week to let them know my PM9 is working fine. I think they appreciated my phone call.

Originally Posted by Steve S

I called them back this week to let them know my PM9 is working fine. I think they appreciated my phone call.

I'm here to tell you all of us with a PM9 appreciate your phone call. You make us all look good.
For what it's worth, I have a VAxxxx that was on the recall list years ago, and I've never had a problem with it.

I have been seeing a handful of people having these problems. They have continuously returned the guns to Kahr and they have never resolved the issues as of yet. Kahr just keeps sending the guns back as is.

Originally Posted by archull

... they have never resolved the issues as of yet. Kahr just keeps sending the guns back as is.

Did I miss something?

Didn't Steve say that the gun is working just fine now? That he called Kahr and said so?

Originally Posted by Glenn-SC

Did I miss something?

Didn't Steve say that the gun is working just fine now? That he called Kahr and said so?

I wasn't speaking about the thread starter. I am talking about a couple of guys locally that I personally know that had issues with their PM9's.

Let's go ahead and bump this thread as I, just like Steve S, am having frequent FTFs. This gun is a VCXXXX gun. It was bought at Gander Mtn. in Huntsville, AL brand new on Thanksgiving Day 09. It left Kahr in July of 2006...

A quick explanation of my FTF: After the bullet is fired and the slide comes back to pull another bullet from the magazine it stops about 0.05-0.1 inch from its most forward position and in turn fails to fire. If I simply reach up with my thumb and push it forward the remaining 0.05-0.1 inch it fires like normal. But, this will make a person that that spent the kind of money I did on the "best" CC gun go absolutely nuts.

When I first got the gun it would do it with random bullets in the magazine, now it most frequently does it with the 2nd from the bottom bullet in the 6 round magazine. I took it back to Gander as they have their year warranty, they were able to replicate the problem, and they stayed on the phone with a guy from Kahr for a good 30 minutes talking it over and he gave them an explanation of "You have to chamber the first round from the magazine, then release the magazine and fill the 6 remaining bullets in the magazine and fire because of such tight tolerances, etc." They did this and said it worked fine... But, they only shot maybe 25 bullets through it quickly.

What I've noticed: When I'm at the range and trying to hit a target dead on, I'm doing the old "pull the trigger slowly so the gun scares you when it goes off" routine. This cause much more FTFs than if I pull the trigger with a more abrupt motion (in both force and speed).

So, what could the slide get caught on 0.05-0.1" from it's most forward position?

Also the FTFs only seem to happen on range ammo, (American Eagle 124 gr or Blazer Brass 115gr). It seems to happen very rarely Gold Dot hollow pts.

Watwood:
I have a VCXXXX gun too. It took a couple of hundred rounds through it before it was reliable to the point I could trust it. Since then it has been perfect. I think Kahr recommends 400 rounds to break one in. Since your gun was made in 2006 it was probably used when you bought it and you may be unaware of the round count through it. I would recommend a new recoil spring assembly as your spring could be well-worn (if it was a used gun) and that would prevent the gun from going into battery. Call Kahr and explain the situation to them. Maybe they will send you a new spring assembly. Welcome to the forum.

Originally Posted by texagun

Steve,
I have a VCXXXX gun too. It took a couple of hundred rounds through it before it was reliable to the point I could trust it. Since then it has been perfect. I think Kahr recommends 400 rounds to break one in. Since your gun was made in 2006 it was probably used when you bought it and you may be unaware of the round count through it. I would recommend a new recoil spring assembly as your spring could be well-worn (if it was a used gun) and that would prevent the gun from going into battery. Call Kahr and explain the situation to them. Maybe they will send you a new spring assembly. Welcome to the forum.

Are you talking to me or Steve S. My gun might have come off of the assembly line in the summer of 2006, but it was brand new in 2009, not used. I have at least 500 rounds through mine at this time.

Originally Posted by Watwood

Are you talking to me or Steve S. My gun might have come off of the assembly line in the summer of 2006, but it was brand new in 2009, not used. I have at least 500 rounds through mine at this time.

I was talking to you regarding your gun. Got the name wrong. If it was brand new and you have 500 rounds through it, I would talk to Kahr. They will most likely have you send it in and look at it. Hopefully they will fix it. Sometimes they are hit or miss. Let us know how it works out. You might want to start a new thread on your issues.

Yes please start a new thread. My issues are over. My PM9 fires anything I put through it now. I have 100% confidence in this weapon and is my main carry firearm.