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    Pm45 #4544

    Greetings from South Texas..!! New member here with my first post.

    Please allow me to jump right in and to tell you that I went to the gun show this past Saturday hoping to walk out with a compact 3.5" 1911 for to use as my primary CCW. Just a few minutes into my journey I found a dealer that had exactly what I was looking for,..that is,... until I noticed a PM45 sitting a few guns down from the subject compact 1911. I took my time comparing both weapons and the significant weight difference between the two pieces was a no-brainer for me, along with the grip angle and bar/dot sight system of the Kahr.

    The slim design of the Kahr was also very appealing to me. I don't foresee any issues with concealment. I didn't purchase the subject Kahr ( tagged at $585) as it was the #4543 model. FYI, I've always favored blued guns over two toned models for concealed carry. I'm just weird that way.

    Anyway,..to cut to the chase, I've been thinking about ordering a PM45 #4544, which is the black slide model. A local shop quoted me a price of $795, plus tax. Does that price seem reasonable..?? I think MSRP is $904. The dealer informed me that this is a newer[tweeked] model PM45 that incorporates a different recoil spring, magazine button release spring and magazine spring (?). I think he called it a second gen model. Prolly just a sales pitch..???

    BTW, This will be my first Kahr. I've already contacted a few custom holster makers for an OWB and IWB rig.

    Any advise and/or commentary will be much appreciated.

    - Jimmy
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    Just a comment.
    I have not shot a PM45.
    I did have a 3" 1911 Style Pistol (a PO C6.45 LDA)
    Shooting .45ACP in that small and light a pistol was not fun and it limited accuracy.


    As always, I suggest shooting the pistol of interest before you buy.

    YMMV

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    I hope you have great luck with it.

    You might want to read this http://handgunforum.net/showthread.php?t=21342
    and this http://handgunforum.net/showthread.php?t=21200

    I would like to have one, but the problems I hear about have kept me away, for now. Keep us updated!

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    I had a P-45 for a while, and liked it OK, but the trigger reach was too short for me, so the trigger guard would slam me on recoil. I liked it, but I could not resolve the trigger reach thing so I swapped it off. I have a K-9, and the trigger reach is the same, but the recoil is less, so I can deal with it.

    The dealer may be telling you right on the 2nd generation thing, because there were some reliability problems with some PM45's, when they first came out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dosborn View Post
    I hope you have great luck with it.

    You might want to read this http://handgunforum.net/showthread.php?t=21342
    and this http://handgunforum.net/showthread.php?t=21200

    I would like to have one, but the problems I hear about have kept me away, for now. Keep us updated!
    Thanks for the links. Seems like these problems are well documented all over the net.

    I'm a member on at least 5 other gun forums and in the last year I've read multiple threads/posts involving frustrated [#4543] owners dealing with issues from FTF/ FTE, to the Magazine dropping out unexpectedly. But I've also read many, many threads/posts from happy owners containing reports of exceptional reliabilty and excellent accuracy.

    FYI, according to the gentleman at the gun shop I spoke to a few days ago, the newer "2nd generation" PM45s have been equipped with different springs that fixed all the malfunctions previously recorded. I believe the newer [tweeked] PM45s have a "SV" prefix on the SN(?). I'll try to confirm that in the next few days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bisley View Post
    .....The dealer may be telling you right on the 2nd generation thing, because there were some reliability problems with some PM45's, when they first came out.
    I concur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn-SC View Post
    Just a comment.
    I have not shot a PM45.
    I did have a 3" 1911 Style Pistol (a PO C6.45 LDA)
    Shooting .45ACP in that small and light a pistol was not fun and it limited accuracy.


    As always, I suggest shooting the pistol of interest before you buy.

    YMMV
    My first compact 1911 was a Colt Officers Model. Got back in 87, I believe. I was never content with it's accuracy so I didn't carry it much. I stayed away from compact 1911s until a few years ago when I acquired a 1st gen Kimber Ultra Carry. It was a good shooter but still a tad heavy for 12 hour day carry.

    I sold the KUC recently and got myself a G26. The G26 was a great shooter. Pretty light, too. But a tad chunky. I never really got use to chunkiness. Got rid of it to go back to a compact 1911. Then I went to the Gun Show.....,.. Hence, where I'm at now.

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