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    Doesn't the 9mm FMJ penetrate further than most other calibers? Bigger isn't always better, shot placement is the most important thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B Brazier View Post
    Doesn't the 9mm FMJ penetrate further than most other calibers? Bigger isn't always better, shot placement is the most important thing.
    Penetration, per se, is not enough to immediately stop a fight. Indeed, if the bullet goes all the way through, it will have relatively little effect, all by itself.
    Not even excellent shot placement will immediately stop a fight, all of the time.
    What is required? A combination of shot placement, enough (but not too much) penetration, a bullet carrying lots of momentum (energy), and all of that energy delivered to the target.
    If you do a little reasearch in Fackler and Thompson/LaGarde, you will find hints about how much energy needs to be delivered to effect an immediate stop. (There is no absolute answer to this question.)
    The diameter of the bullet doesn't matter, as long as it carries with it sufficient energy, and it stops within the target (so it delivers all of its energy).
    That said, I must add that intuitively I feel that a bullet of larger diameter, or a bullet that has expanded to a large diameter, will be more effective, all other things being equal.

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    The problem with the fmj is that the bullet goes all the way through the victim, taking all its kinetic energy with it. Plus it'll hit people behind your target and injure them too. My CCW instructor showed us some 9mm fmj that were fired against steel targets and they barely had dents in them.
    You want a bullet that hits, stays inside the target, and dumps all its kinetic energy right there.

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    you mean barely a dent in the target because the bullet went right through no problem? how thick of steel was this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StatesRights View Post
    The problem with the fmj is that the bullet goes all the way through the victim, taking all its kinetic energy with it. Plus it'll hit people behind your target and injure them too. My CCW instructor showed us some 9mm fmj that were fired against steel targets and they barely had dents in them.
    You want a bullet that hits, stays inside the target, and dumps all its kinetic energy right there.
    I thought I'd just written that.

    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt02 View Post
    you mean barely a dent in the target because the bullet went right through no problem? how thick of steel was this?
    We're not talking about steel targets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    I thought I'd just written that.


    We're not talking about steel targets.
    Duh! I know that. I meantioned the steel target because there was a question about 9mm fmj and I was making a point that it has TOO MUCH penetration. And when I said "target" and hitting someone behind your "target", I meant the PERSON you were shooting at. When you aim at a person, he/she becomes your target.
    I think in these forums, people are so busy criticizing what others say that we lose site of the original purpose in the first place.
    The original comment was about penetration.... and I think 9mm fmj pentrates too much and presents a danger to those behind your intended "target".

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