Speer Gold-Dot

Hydra shock hands down IMHO

I have 8 boxes of 9mm Black Talon ammo. I haven’t seen any discussion on Black Talon. Back in the day there were many glowing reports about how good it was. Don’t know if that was just hype or it really performed that well. I just bought a Cobra 9mm Derringer to tide me over until my P229 9mm barrel and my KelTec P-11 come in. Does anyone have any information on reliability?

I realized that the question was vague. I wanted information on reliability of the Black Talon ammo. However, if anyone has information on the reliability of the Cobra 9mm Derringer, that would also be welcome.
Thanks.

Hornady TAP for me.

Originally Posted by jeffreybehr

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Sorry about that Jeffrey, I somehow missed that. I received that picture in an email from a coworker, who snagged it off of another forum. I have since done a little bit of testing myself but it seems almost impossible to get my hands on different brands of ammo. I can only find about 3 different brands...

Since I posted the 40-caliber-bullet results, I've switched to 45GAP and tested a couple. Since the Gold Dot excelled in the .40-cal. test, I bought those bullets and also Winchester Silvertip ammo.


Again the Gold Dot performed excellently, and until someone sends me some 45-caliber bullets to test, I'm finished.

Here are my cartridges.

I've used Speer Gold Dots and Federal Hyra shoks for years. I may not have given it too much thought though since in a .45 I didn't think there would be a significant difference in performance.

Anyone have a range report on the Winchester PDX1s?

I stumbled across this thread and posted my vote for the Barnes DPX bullet (Corbon). I was surprised at the low ranking it has overall. I am more than willing to change rounds if the other stuff is better. Is the DPX just another hype deal the old man has fallen for? Educate me please.
Regards,
Eli

Depends on the load. try the GOLD DOT SHORT BARREL versions. designed to expand at the reduced velocities of shorter barrels.

WWB BJHP in .180 gr or Hornady Critical Defense .165 gr. in .40

Federal Hi-Shok 125 grain SJHP .357 Magnum ammo.
Federal Hi-Shok 115 grain JHP 9x19 +P+ ammo.
Federal Hi-Shok 115 grain JHP 9x19 SV ammo.
Federal 155 grain JHP .40 S&W ammo.

winchester ranger frangibles

I won 't even ask why?

I was advised years ago to shoot what the local police shoot and now that's usually HydraShoks or Winchester PDX1. If it's okay for them to shoot bad guys with these loads it will be easier to convince a jury it was okay for you to do the same in self defense. Most of these loads group well enough from any pistol I've owned to easily do the job. As for downrange ballistics, if you hit something vital anything will work.

There will always be a box of Ranger T series in my nightstand

380: MagTech 85gr. Runners up: USAammo 90gr, Hornady XTP, Ranger T-Series.
9mm: Federal Premium 124gr HST. Runners up: Federal Premium 124gr +P HST, Federal Premium 147gr HST, Ranger T-Series 147gr., Speer Gold Dot 124gr.

But over all now. The new hornady FTX bullet, superior controlled expansion. FTX as won every test for over 2 yrs now. Then any bullet in it's class.

I voted for Federal Hydra-Shok,

Although I agree with Mike.

Just about any quality HP round is fine with me.

And I have several different brands around the house.

Originally Posted by Mental Avenger

I realized that the question was vague. I wanted information on reliability of the Black Talon ammo. However, if anyone has information on the reliability of the Cobra 9mm Derringer, that would also be welcome.
Thanks.

The Black Talons are very reliable, of course you need to run them for reliability in your chosen handgun. As far as performance, I've read the latest T series are better performers than the older designed Black Talons and their predecessor the SXT.

Gold Dot Hollow Points Is What I am Using Now But I also like silver tips and Winchester!!
But In Reality If You Put 2 In The Heart And One In The Head It Does,nt Matter What You Use!!!!

Originally Posted by Mental Avenger

I have 8 boxes of 9mm Black Talon ammo. I haven’t seen any discussion on Black Talon. Back in the day there were many glowing reports about how good it was. Don’t know if that was just hype or it really performed that well. I just bought a Cobra 9mm Derringer to tide me over until my P229 9mm barrel and my KelTec P-11 come in. Does anyone have any information on reliability?

Black Talons Are Armor Piercing So They Are Not Worth The Cost To Most People.. High Prices Are Probably The Reason They Are No Longer In Favor!!!

Originally Posted by Stonekold

Black Talons Are Armor Piercing So They Are Not Worth The Cost To Most People.. High Prices Are Probably The Reason They Are No Longer In Favor!!!

the black talon are not now and never were armor piercing, perhaps a little research would be of value since its obvious that whats being spewed out is nothing more than the opinions of others.... unless of course you have some video of you shooting black talons thru armor..... any armor.... body armor ..... WTF people? atleast have some idea about the garbage you believe and pass on!

i'm using federal premium guard dogs in 45acp right now