View Poll Results: Which one do you choose for home defense?

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  • 12 Gauge Pump w/ Buckshot

    187 34.89%
  • .45 ACP Drawer Gun

    183 34.14%
  • 9mm/.38 Special Carry Gun

    166 30.97%
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffWard View Post
    30 round 12 gauge anyone???
    There is the AA 12 full-auto shotgun with a 20 round drum. The thing was on Future Weapons. Pretty bad ass!
    Last edited by Todd; 01-12-2008 at 08:27 AM.

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    ingratiating

    Mike: Sir; I don't know anything about M'4's but I'll go with you "IF" you'll provide me a shotgun and some "body" to carry the shells. Aint know way in h&&l do I want to go in with a handgun. On the other hand, I want 2 shotguns, one for closets; Sir; I've had a history of ingratiating myself.
    Jeff: Sir; maybe we can spend the rest of our natural lives and not have "Mike's" worry. Around the HOUSE; shotgun and we are good to go with that 'bump in the night'

    Do follow up with your experiment; What would interest me: the different distances; 8'-15' maybe @5' dispersions

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    Jeff, this might interest you: http://www.raacfirearms.com/Saiga_12.htm.
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    Google image search "handgun wounds" and then search "shotgun wounds." But again, I don't have a shotgun, or sadly, an M4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fivehourfrenzy View Post
    But again, I don't have a shotgun, or sadly, an M4.
    And the world is a safer place because of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    And the world is a safer place because of it.
    Gatorade just came out my nose.
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    Tatoo

    Quote Originally Posted by fivehourfrenzy View Post
    But again, I don't have a shotgun, or sadly, an M4.
    After looking at your avatar, I have to say the tatoo job to add those would be insane.

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    I like my new 2-round mag extension... Should be fine for anything shy of the whole gang...

    But then if the whole gan shows up: I have 40 rounds of .45ACP from the XD, followed by 27 rounds of 9mm from XD #2, and then 23 rounds of 9mm from the Kel-Tec, then another 17 loaded in Carla's P226, and if all else fails... 5 more .38 Specials in her snubbie...

    Then the Air Soft AK in Mark's room...

    I think 119 rounds should do...

    Jeff

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenn View Post
    After looking at your avatar, I have to say the tatoo job to add those would be insane.
    It would be...just wait 'til I get a lightsaber on the other side, then they'll think I'm a jedi.

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    All I'm gonna hear is the alarm and my dogs as I dial 911 and wait. Unless it sounds like the dogs need help, then I will be very careful in my attempt to give some.

    My primary HD weapon is an old Rem 870 Police w Surefire X200 attached. Win 0 buck (12/.32 pellets) in tube, 1 oz slugs on stock (bear and lion wander my neighborhood).

    Penetration in gel through standard interior wall:

    147/9 JHP 22.8/.36
    180/40 JHP 25.2/.40
    230/45 JHP 29.7/.45
    12g/1 oz slug 22.8/.85
    12g/00 buck 23.2/NA
    55/223 FMJ 16/.22 frag
    75/223 HP 13/.44 frag

    Don't live in trailer parks. Even #4 buck can exit one trailer and enter another 25 ft away.

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    I like the way the Big Dutchman thinks...anyone who will enter an occupied dwelling at night by breaking in is capable of anything...and needs to be given no warning or quarter....it's not just in the movies that a street-wise thug talks nice and then overpowers the armed homeowner...who is not trained for combat like many of us old dogs are...they had the only chance they'll get when they stood outside making up their mind.....but add a bright light to the situation, where you know you're not facing a son, daughter, or other family member who may be a bit drunky..... my answer 20 ga. pump and .45 auto...first four up are slugs...last two are buckshot...I don't want to face a perp holding a family member with a scattergun...takes too long to drop it and draw the .45...and rifle accuracy would be important in that possible situation...aimed shots are better no matter what the situation...

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    12g Pump, the sound of putting slug in the chamber should send most intruders running with a load in their pants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenArrow View Post
    Don't live in trailer parks. Even #4 buck can exit one trailer and enter another 25 ft away.
    I'll remember that next time I think about moving into a trailer park.

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    We have a two story home, with an alarm. My wife's 9mm, my 9mm buy enough time to get the 870 and secure the kids. Bad guy(s) comes up stairs, bad guy(s) goes down. They can have whatever they want downstairs. Come near my family, and it's the last bad choice they'll ever make.

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    First I would wake up my wife and have he lock herself in the room with my daughter and the shotgun. Then I would grab my .45 and wait for the guy.

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    I have one of my handguns near me when I sleep and my dog sleeps at the top of the stairs. I would like to have the shotgun ready to go, but I don't know how to safely store it and still be ready to use within say 30 seconds. I have 5rds of 00 Buck in a elastic sleeve thingy on the stock, but still have a cable lock through the action. any suggestions?

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    I think its funny how many people say they would use their handgun, Don’t get me wrong I love my handguns and I am a fairly good shot but I still miss stationary targets in the middle of the day. Think about a moving target in the middle of the night and you were just dreaming 3 seconds ago, you’re not going to hit a dang thing. Get a shotgun load it 00 buck, slug, 00 buck, slug, 00 buck, slug leave it out of sight but in reach, you will hit something I promises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeshwa24 View Post
    I think its funny how many people say they would use their handgun
    I think a lot of people choose handgun because they don't own a shotgun (my reason) or the shotgun is not readily accessible because they have it locked down for some reason making it impractical to get it engaged quickly.

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    The "Street Howitzer" is always within reach of the bed! The first round up is No. 4 buckshot followed by five rounds of 00.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeshwa24 View Post
    I think its funny how many people say they would use their handgun, Don’t get me wrong I love my handguns and I am a fairly good shot but I still miss stationary targets in the middle of the day. Think about a moving target in the middle of the night and you were just dreaming 3 seconds ago, you’re not going to hit a dang thing. Get a shotgun load it 00 buck, slug, 00 buck, slug, 00 buck, slug leave it out of sight but in reach, you will hit something I promises.
    At the short ranges that characterize most homes, it is fairly easy to miss with a shotgun, too. The pattern is tight at short range.

    Most defense-minded people seem to shoot their handguns more than their shotguns. It's natural to want to use the thing you are most familiar with.

    I'll pass on the slugs. Way too much penetration. I like my family and my neighbors.
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