12 Gauge Pump w/ Buckshot
.45 ACP Drawer Gun
9mm/.38 Special Carry Gun
Thanks, Jeff. I've had my eye on that very one, for when I redeploy back to the States. Always looking for a bargain, though!
I second the chihauhau (mine's 3.2 lbs of pure terror), but if that didn't work I guess I'd grab my Glock. That and my trusty Red Ryder 200 shot Air Rifle!
Id grab my Glock 19 9mm because i'm its reliable, and acurate. I beleive the first shot will be key in making sure I come out on top..
You also cant go wrong with the sinister sound of racking a 12 gauge shot gun..
Also I recommend that you prepare yourself in the event of a home invasion. I personally set my alarm to wake me up iin the middler of the night to trigger a "breakin drill." I go for the glock 19 (unloaded) and pretend he's walking around while i wait to ambush him.
I've got two mags ready with Corbon JHP rounds for the necessary stopping power.
Goggles that I'm selling on ebay as of right now:
It was tight. My roommate laughed at me when I came walking down the stairs but I had to stay warm somehow.
A little league football helmet with an open facemask should suffice, assuming I properly adjust the chinstrap. I actually have a funny story about a rat...not this past fall semester but the one before, I had just moved into my fraternity house for a year. We had the entire ceiling and floor ripped apart in the front hallway so there were tiles all over the place. I came downstairs around 2am and opened the door and there was this ginormous rat standing there. I swear the thing was damn near a foot long not including the tail. I actually thought it was a oppossum at first. I chased it into another room and called one of my brothers down and we couldn't find it. The very next night at 2am I went downstairs and there it was again, perched on a busted ceiling tile. I yelled at Scott and he grabbed this huge sword he had mounted on his wall and we went after it. I lifted every couch in that room several times and he'd swing under it but we never did find it. There were a few nooks and crannies in the room we chased it into, but honestly I don't know how it got through any of them. This thing was as big around as my neck.
Possibly you should lay off buying guns and contact an exterminator.
Mike...I am the exterminator...rahrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
Well the Weimaraner that sleeps in the bed with us would let us know that someone was in the house. He is smart about it tho, he will wake me up by licking my face b4 he goes apeshi$,
once I am up he is balls to the wall. I have never seen a dog get that mad about someone being in his house without us knowing, the hair along his spine stand's on end. lol then i know its time to grab the .45
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This thread and Mike's link to firearmstactical were enough to convence me that this was a good place to join so.....here I am and thanks again Mike for the excellent reading material. I unlearned a lot! I got a real validation on my choice of a new home security system as seen below (45 ACP)
I had my own opinions as to what I would use but I will defer to what my son has told me. He is currently in Tikrit, Iraq, doing the up close and dirry work. His words were "f*** the m4, f*** the shotgun, give me a pistol that will put someone down, now. In an urban scenario, mobility and lethality rule. Think about it, going up a staircase....to a second floor or a rooftop. I know it's somewhat different than your bedroom but I can't fault his logic. I want to be able to shoot and scoot ASAP.
Enough said, .45 gets my vote. He is not a big fan of the 9mm, too many double and triple taps without "hogie" going down..
My unit has kicked in plenty of doors, and none our guys want to use any pistol to clear a house - they all like their M4s. Different people have different perspectives, though, and maybe the Iraq theater is different. I've cleared buildings with an M4, and it's just no big deal. A shouldered M4 doesn't stick out any more than a pistol held in a firing position. Ditto for Low Ready. And a shotgun or M4 will put haji down much more authoritatively than ANY pistol in the military inventory.
Not sure why you can't "shoot and scoot" with a shotgun or carbine. It's no big deal, and making hits on the move with a carbine is a lot easier than doing it with a pistol. It's not like you'll be doing an obstacle course while defending your house. You might take a few steps off the line of force or to cover/concealment, but that's easily done with a long gun.
If I were in a "known threat" environment, clearing a building, especially with an unknown layout???
NO QUESTIONS ASKED... I'm carrying a short-barreled shotgun with buckshot and as much capacity as possible.
There's no pistol caliber on the planet that will put down "Hagi", or any other human target faster than a load of buck at close quarters...
12 Guage vs. M4??? The M4 gets the nod vs body armor, and in capacity.
30 round 12 gauge anyone???
But since I don't clear buildings for a living, and I don't have to worry about more than 1-3 perps at a time??? 12 Guage.
That said, I'm testing 00 Buck vs #1 Buck this week. Massad is a big fan of #1 from what I remember. I also got some 3" #1... 24 pellets vs 9...