View Poll Results: Which one do you choose for home defense?

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  • 12 Gauge Pump w/ Buckshot

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  • .45 ACP Drawer Gun

    183 34.14%
  • 9mm/.38 Special Carry Gun

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    My Five Seven is my new nightstand gun. But, in your scenario - I'd go for the 45 given your 3 choices.

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    Fortunately this has only happened once - and it was just my stupid cat getting tangled up in a plastic bag, getting scared, and knocking things off the counter.

    Anyway, I gave my girlfriend the 92FS and grabbed the 45XD for myself.

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    We have two Australian Shepherds that would be barking their asses off. My wife & I both have full size 1911's in 9mm loaded on each side of the bed and my AR15 is loaded in the bedroom closet.

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    I would want the .45 for it's one stop power. I don't like the idea of a shotgun for home protection inside the house because I don't want stray shot hitting one of my family members.

    Also, as far as a wheel gun and cocking back the hammer- don't do it! When I was training on my Air Force special operations team (Emergency Services Team) we did a training exercise involving a hostage rescue. I was the number two man on the entry team on this one (normally I was the marksman/sniper). Our point man had cocked his .38 (ya, that's what we had in the early 80's). As the exercise evolved we heard a click. The point man had squeezed the trigger a little to tight since it was in single action mode and he ended up shooting the hostage. He was told that this was a no, no but had cocked it anyway.

    A lesson well learned without casualties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khellandros66 View Post
    .38 special with Glazers, this way I do not put family members or neighbors at risk of being hit by a stray round while sleeping. (I know a single round is not always a death dealer but thats why we use the two to the belly one to the head method.. you know the rest, if you don't well you aren't prepared to make this sort of judgment as a gun owner and are better off using other means to protect you, and your loved ones)
    Do you mean by going through a bad guy, or going through walls? Glasers generally do stop in bad guys, though with what many (including me) consider questionably inadequate penetration levels. However, Glasers will usually sail through typical building materials, like most bullets. You can read about it here: http://www.firearmstactical.com/briefs5.htm, among other places.

    Shotgun is a horrible choice, cause in a one on one struggle it can be used as leverage against you. Especially if the assailant(s) use the element of surprise or has an advantage in height/strength.
    Geez, you'd better not tell that to the tens of thousands of people who have successfully defended their homes with shotguns over the past couple of centuries.

    Properly employed, a shotgun is no more likely to be used against a home defender than any other gun. Yeah, if you don't know crap about weapon retention and decide to take a stroll through the house with your 28" barreled bird gun, the bad guy might take it. However, a trained and tactically aware person can move through a house pretty safely with a short (18"-20") shotgun. I can certainly do it with an M4, which isn't much shorter than a short shotgun.

    .45 risks to be too powerful, and can go through an attacker, a wall and into someone else that you don't want it to.
    A good .45 JHP load is no more likely to perforate a human body than a good .38 Special, 9mm, or whatever else. Just look at the penetration depths. You can start at www.firearmstactical.com again.

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    Of the three choices, I go with the .45. In my reality I grab the .41 mag and a .45 as backup

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    I get my G-21 from its resting place. I have night lights placed in each room for clearing the room at night.
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    Definately the 12-gauge for me. Grab it, stay in the room, and call 911. If I had family in other rooms that would necessitate going outside my own room, I would probably opt for the .45 and a light.

    In my own reality, I only own a PPK. It stays loaded with corbon JHPs. If anyone wanted in our apartment at night, it wouldn't be that tough but, being a second floor studio, we would know long before they got in.

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    I reach for the phone to let the hospital get a good head start, because unless he is armed and has killed my Dog (in which case a bullet from my gun will be the least of his worries when I am done with this guy) Sam (the dog) has just torn a large chunk of his body as a chew toy. Then I slowly walk down the hall with my 12 gauge mossy…

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    I'd go for my .45 cause it has night sights. Plus the 12 ga would make hell of a mess. When I get Night sights on my Para P-14 it may be the go to solution. I used to keep a .357 Revolver as a pillow gun. But now it's my kimber. Also I have a few targets posted on my bedroom door with nice clover leafs on them.

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    It would currently be my 9mm with 124gr JHPs. I did look very closely at the Mossberg Persuader on the rack at Academy, but other than driving 50 miles out of town with a couple boxes of buckshot cartridges, a cell phone and a friend, I have nowhere to go to become proficient with a shotgun.

    The 9mm, used effectively, should "persuade" any BG to stop what he's doing and crumple to the floor in a bloody heap. Any one of these weapons would have the neighbors awake and calling 911, but it's always a good idea to call for a meatwagon yourself. BG is handcuffed to a gurney (or in a body bag) and you head back to bed, maybe after screwing a board across the door or placing some other sort of anti-door-opening device like a burglar bar in place.

    Interesting legal question; BG breaks in and confronts you holding the firearm of your choice, which you discharge into BG. Texas now has the castle doctrine, so your actions are perfectly legal, and you are practically immune from lawsuit from the BG or his next of kin. However, once shot, the BG bleeds on an expensive rug and knocks your TV off the wall on the way to the ground. Can you sue the BG/next of kin for cleaning and a new TV? Are you likely to get anything? Does homeowners' insurance cover shootout damage?

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    My pistol gripped 870 would probably do the job just fine, but my pocket 45ACP is usually close by. Also, my girlfriend's scary accurate with her USP compact 357sig!
    Someone would be in for a world of hurt, but most likely just death.

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    I'd sue his A--...

    Messing up my carpet... the nerve...

    At least walk outside before you expire... bleed on the driveway!

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    I generally work late. But, A bump in the night isn't very uncommon in my house. I have 2 roommates who are your typical college kids. Stumbling in the door at 4:30 when the bars close. So I would generally think it was them. But, If it were the described situation. I'd reach right for the carry gun since i keep it bedside. My .45 is in a locked pistol bag, which is in a locked briefcase. (trying to be cautious.) I haven't purchased a shotgun, YET! Waiting for the girlfriend to stop taking all that excess money at the end of every month. I'll probably have to wait untill tax returns. Oh well, win some... lose some i guess.

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    same as i always say for home invasion, 12g w/buckshot. if someone breaks into my home in the middle of the night they are going to end up dead w/one blast.

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    I wouldn't grab the shotgun, at least not in my apartment. It's a two-story townhouse and to go from my room to the stairs, then to the rest of the downstairs other than half the living room, it's a straight 180-degree turn, which would be a lot easier with a handgun. Honestly if someone is dumb enough to break into the front door of my apartment, they're gonna hear my 9-month old pit bull shrieking from my room. I always keep the door latched to keep her from wandering downstairs and raiding the trash can, which she somehow manages to get into at least once a day without me knowing. She's adorable and a total sweetheart, but I've seen her when someone she doesn't know steps through the door, and it would scare me if I didn't know her. If I ever did feel someone had broken in, I would put her in her crate, grab my .40, and listen at the door. If I thought I could open it without being heard, I would do so, making sure my roommate's door was also closed. If he's in his room at night, it's completely shut. Then I would wait at the top of the steps and see if he was unlucky enough to show any part of his body. Kentucky has the Castle Doctrine, so yes, he would be shot. Twice in the crotch, then once in the crotch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fivehourfrenzy View Post
    I wouldn't grab the shotgun, at least not in my apartment. It's a two-story townhouse and to go from my room to the stairs, then to the rest of the downstairs other than half the living room, it's a straight 180-degree turn, which would be a lot easier with a handgun. Honestly if someone is dumb enough to break into the front door of my apartment, they're gonna hear my 9-month old pit bull shrieking from my room. I always keep the door latched to keep her from wandering downstairs and raiding the trash can, which she somehow manages to get into at least once a day without me knowing. She's adorable and a total sweetheart, but I've seen her when someone she doesn't know steps through the door, and it would scare me if I didn't know her. If I ever did feel someone had broken in, I would put her in her crate, grab my .40, and listen at the door. If I thought I could open it without being heard, I would do so, making sure my roommate's door was also closed. If he's in his room at night, it's completely shut. Then I would wait at the top of the steps and see if he was unlucky enough to show any part of his body. Kentucky has the Castle Doctrine, so yes, he would be shot. Twice in the crotch, then once in the crotch.
    I am very glad I am not your roommate, since if I mistakenly closed my door before moving around the house I would be considered fair game for crotch shots. Three times.

    Not sure why you'd cage your fierce ally. Don't you want to scare the housebreaker? Maybe he'd surrender and you wouldn't have to shoot him in the crotch.

    Just because you can shoot doesn't necessarily mean you should shoot.
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    i have a pt145 next to my bed on the night stand. it is somewhat hidden, so i dont have to worry about someone seeing and want to grab it. i only know where it is. i got a glock 19 in the drawer on the same night stand. i have a boxer that is very protective of his family and always makes some kind of noise when she dont know what it is. i also have a loud ass alarm when doors are forcebly opened and makes a beeping noise when opened reagularly. my 12 gauge shot gun is back home in texas so when my father buys his im bringing it back home to roost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barham View Post
    Just because you can shoot doesn't necessarily mean you should shoot.
    Well put!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barham View Post
    I am very glad I am not your roommate, since if I mistakenly closed my door before moving around the house I would be considered fair game for crotch shots. Three times.

    Not sure why you'd cage your fierce ally. Don't you want to scare the housebreaker? Maybe he'd surrender and you wouldn't have to shoot him in the crotch.

    Just because you can shoot doesn't necessarily mean you should shoot.
    My roommate's presence is unmistakeable. If it's him moving around I'll know it, but I'd always be sure it wasn't him before blowing his nuticles all over the floor. I'd cage her so the worst case scenario (her getting shot by the intruder) wouldn't happen. And even though she's a pit, she is by no means intimidating whatsoever.

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