Hello from Upstate NY
I wanted to as a question about the H&K pistol's. I have been around and owned handguns for over 35 years and I am just now lusting
after the high end. I have been using Ruger's S&W M&P's, Kahr, Sig and both Auto's and some revolvers. My question is of all the guns
I have handled I was very surprised with the DA pull of a H&K as it was very heavy and long. The question is, is this a design philosophy
of the company or did I just find a model that this is common in. The SA pull was lighter but still not what I expected from an upper level
gun. I like the feel and the quality is top notch but the trigger felt like about 14 or 15 lbs. Any input would be appreciated.
Be safe, Frank.
Welcome to the forum, Frank! My theory as to those triggers is because it's used as a military and police weapon. I've had a few in the past and they are excellent pistols but I also couldn't get along with the heavy trigger pulls.
Thank you Charlie, I thought I was holding a Mass. gun. We get them here once in a while as Mass. is right around the corner from here and
some customers will shop in my local GS.
Thanks again, Frank.
Welcome.What model are you looking at?Some models are better than others on the triggers,and some are a little more workable.
I have a USP45 Tactical,I got it because I couldn't justify buying the Match trigger and possibly a threaded barrel down the road.The DA is long and heavy,but not any worse than some others to me.The SA is almost as good as a nice 1911 trigger,and probably will be once it's smoothed out.According to the HK guys,they really smooth out between 500-1000 rounds.The reset can be long on some,but Bruce Grey can reduce it by about 50%.I believe the P30s are longer than the USP/HK45 and there isn't much you can do to it.The HK45 uses some of the USP Match springs,so it's supposedly better than stock USPs.There's also the LEM trigger that works similar to Glock,M&P,etc,and the light version is down about 4.5lbs.There are 3 standard variations and a few variations by mixing springs around.They are quite a modular gun,if you can take the gun apart you can install the trigger setup you'd prefer,there's no need for a gunsmith like a 1911 that requires precise fitting.If you're looking at a used USP,buy one from '05 to present,they upgraded the firing pin safety and the catch became a 2 piece setup which reduced some of the reset.
Go to HKPRO.COM forums,good place.There are some hardcore HK guys there and some ex HK employees,you can find out anything you need to know there.
The biggest problem I have here, I live near Albany, is we do not have any H&K dealers near here. I will only consider buying most anything after handling it first.
The one model I found was a .40 cal and I am not sure what mod. it was. While I like and enjoy M&P handguns, the sales person was only interested in talking
about a M&P .40. I got very little from him about the H&K and had only the one gun in stock. I have since bought a Sig P226 and really like the feel and trigger on
the gun but I would still like to also add a H&K to my small group if only I could find one with, for lack of a proper phrase, a better trigger.
Thanks for your response and I am sorry about not having better information on my end, Frank.
No problem,it takes a little study to understand HK.The USP has 8 or 9 variations to the trigger from the factory that include lt and rt hand variations,LEM and single action only,plus variations of LEM on top of that.The P series runs different variant numbers from the USP,and I don't believe the HK45 has as many as the USP,but it's basically an upgraded USP.It can get confusing.Date of manufacture is easy,it's 2 letters stamped on the slide,A=0,B=1,C=2,except J is omitted.The DE is the code for the country Germany so it'll be the other 2 letters.Since the HK45s are made here,I don't know how they're marked.I bought mine 2 years ago and it was newly made,BA for '10.
Enjoy the Sig,good piece.I never took to them but they are a good choice.I was raised just down the road from you in Red HookBeautiful country but I didn't like the fact NYC was moving in and I was already tired of the cold when I was 18.It's a real mess there now.
Could not agree with you more about the beautiful country, the influx of NYC and the cold. That is the reason my wife and I bought a home in N.C. and will be moving
in a little under two years. Thanks for the great info on the H&K line. I am trying neighboring states for H&K dealers with hopes of finding a sampling of the line.
Be safe, Frank.
Rex is right on the money regarding the H&K line I have mix of pistols and gravitate towards Glocks for
certain reasons however I love H&K with a p2000 , USP C and last and most favored P2000 SK in my barn.