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    jdeere9750 is offline Member
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    Green Dot .45ACP

    Approximately 8 pounds of free Green Dot says that I need to find a good .45ACP load using it. The only published information I can find is on Alliant's website. It lists one load, which is 5.3 gr Green Dot (230 gr Speer LRN, 1.27" OAL, 842 fps.) Everything else is just like the info in this thread of folks that say this load worked/going to try this one/etc.

    I am currently finishing up some Zero 230 gr FMJ's that I bought to learn on. I'll probably finish those out with the HP-38 that I've been working with already. Then, I thought I might move over to lead to bring costs down. I'm guessing I'll buy some small batches of 185 gr LSWC, 200 gr LSWC, and 230 gr LRN and see which I like best. Then, I'll buy large batches of something.

    Now, I've heard over and over to start low and work your way up. How's a fella supposed to do that with a powder that's not commonly used and doesn't have much of any published data to go by? What is "low?" How do I work up my own load data for these four different bullets?

    Thanks in advance.

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    This is the area you call upon those that live this stuff or call the manufacturer.If they list only one load that changes things from the norm.296 and H110 are nitro based powders and this sounds like a similar powder,I don't know Green Dot is a similar powder.This is a slow shotgun powder isn't it?Research it and don't deviate from their data until you find out more.If you've seen a doublecharge blow a gun,you should see a light load detonate (yes,like your car pinging) with a volatile powder like 296 that you get nothing of a load window for.

    A good load is a 200 lead or plated over upper 5gr of HP38 or 231,the old major power factor was easy if something wasn't wrong and low 5s were decent.Under 5 is wimpy,muzzle flip is almost non-existant.Research the GD though,sounds like it's a little slow for handguns in general.

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    Green Dot .45ACP

    HP-38 is what I'm using now. Green Dot is actually faster burning than HP-38/Win 231. It's in the range of Win WST. 5.3 gr Green Dot under a 230 LRN is the only published load I've seen. There are several on handloads.com, but unpublished Internet info scares me.

    I'm asking around, and I'll do some testing. I'm sure I can work something out.

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    I got curious so I did a quick search.I came up with GD a few slower than 231 but in the same class,but slower than Unique.The first search on loads hit the 1911Forum from 2 years ago,one said it was snappy (ok?) and another had a few loads listed.Ya got the powder so burn it up,but if you want to know about this powder talk to the Gerk and NickA at 1911Forum,these guys breathe this stuff.

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    Green Dot is a GREAT powder for .45 Auto. You can call and get loads. Attitude now with powder manufacturers is that they only show loads for pistols with their pistol powders and only shotgun load for their shotgun powders. Green Dot and Red Dot are deemed shotgun powders.
    Bullet Weight Powder Weight Velocity Note Power Factor COL
    L-RNWC #452389 185 Green Dot 4.5 745 Start 138
    L-SWC 180 Green Dot 5.3 910 Start 164 1.190
    L-SWC 180 Green Dot 5.3 910 Max 164 1.190
    L-RNWC #452389 185 Green Dot 6.0 965 Max 179
    JHP 185 Green Dot 4.9 750 Start 139
    JHP 185 Green Dot 6.5 900 Max 167
    JHP 185 Green Dot 6.5 1030 Max 191
    Hdy JHP 185 Green Dot 6.5 1052 195
    Hdy JHP 185 Green Dot 6.5 1052
    JHP 185 Green Dot 6.8 990 Max 183 1.275
    L-SWC 200 Green Dot 3.9 Target-Start 0
    L-SWC 200 Green Dot 4.3 805 Target "max" 161 1.190
    L-SWC 200 Green Dot 4.3 805 Start/25 yd 161
    Lyman 452460 L-SWC 200 Green Dot 4.5 715 Start 143 1.161
    L-SWC 195 Green Dot 4.5 740 Start 144
    swaged L-SWC 200 Green Dot 4.6 729 Start/50 yd 146
    swaged L-SWC 200 Green Dot 4.6 722 Start 144
    swaged L-SWC 200 Green Dot 5.0 786 Max 157
    swaged L-SWC 200 Green Dot 5.0 833 Max 167
    L-SWC 200 Green Dot 5.0 850 Hardball load 170 1.160
    Lyman 452630 L-SWC 200 Green Dot 5.1 727 Start 145 1.235
    Hdy L-SWC 200 Green Dot 5.3 858 V. Acc. 172 1.225
    Lyman 452460 L-SWC 200 Green Dot 5.8 895 Max 179 1.161
    L-SWC 195 Green Dot 6.0 955 Max 186
    L-SWC 200 Green Dot 6.4 894 Max 179
    Lyman 452630 L-SWC 200 Green Dot 6.4 894 Max 179 1.235
    Lyman #452630 200 Green Dot 6.4 894 Max 179
    PJM 200 Green Dot 4.8 700 Start 140
    JHP 200 Green Dot 5.3 Start 0
    JHP 200 Green Dot 5.6 896 Start 179
    JHP 200 Green Dot 5.6 910 Max 182
    JHP 200 Green Dot 5.7 842 Start 168
    JHP 200 Green Dot 5.7 843 Start 169
    JHP 200 Green Dot 5.9 915 Max 183 1.180
    JHP 200 Green Dot 5.9 915 Max 183 1.175
    JHP 200 Green Dot 6.0 957 Max 191
    Spr JHP 200 Green Dot 6.0 910 182 1.180
    PJM 200 Green Dot 6.2 900 Max 180
    JHP 200 Green Dot 6.3 933 Max 187
    L (target) 230 Green Dot 4.3 805 Target "max" 185 1.190
    swaged L-RN 230 Green Dot 4.3 805 Target 185
    Lead 230 Green Dot 4.3 805 Max 185
    Lead 230 Green Dot 4.3 805 185 1.190
    swaged L-RN 230 Green Dot 4.8 772 Start 178 1.270
    swaged L-RN 230 Green Dot 5.3 842 Max 194 1.270
    Speer L-RN 230 Green Dot 5.3 842 Max 194 1.270
    Spr L-RN 230 Green Dot 5.3 818 188 1.272
    Lead 230 Green Dot 5.7 800 184
    FMJ 230 Green Dot 4.9 700 Start 161
    JHP 230 Green Dot 5.4 845 Max 194 1.230
    FMC 230 Green Dot 5.4 920 Max 212 1.190
    Sierra FMJ 230 Green Dot 5.4 802 184
    Sie FMJ 230 Green Dot 5.4 802 184
    FMJ 230 Green Dot 5.4 920 212 1.190
    FMJ 230 Green Dot 6.1 850 Max 196
    My favorite load is the RCBS 45-201-KT L-SWC and 4.5-4.7gn of Green Dot (light target) or 6.0-6.3gn of Green Dot (near max).
    I find Green Dot to be right between (231/HP38, Zip, 700X) and (International, Unique, and Universal).

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    Lyman Reloading Handbook, 49th edition and the Lyman Cast Bullet handbook, 4th Edition both have data for Green Dot in .45 ACP w/ Cast bullets.

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    Jammersix is offline Banned
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    Anything that I had eight pounds of would be a great powder.

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    Green Dot works very well for me with cast bullets in .45acp and .45 colt.

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