Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 25
  1. #1
    darktone is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    10

    First post here- what gun for concealed carry?

    Hi all, I am looking for a small gun that I can carry without it being in the way or being noticable. I have been away from guns for quite some time- the last gun I bought was a Ruger P85 when they first came out. In the Past I had a Raven 25auto, Bulldog 44 Special, Taurus 357, Tarus 38, S&W .22, and the P85. The Bulldog was my favorite but it was just too bulky to carry.
    I live in a state with no concealed carry but I am starting to think it's better to be arrested for having it than to be mugged. Twice in the past week I have had run ins with crack addicts.....
    Just from looking at a few gun magazines I have picked out the lightweight Kel-Tec 32ACP or 380auto. Also I see North American arms offers a cool looking small revolver chambered in the .17 rimfire cartridge. Is the .17 any good? I kind of like the idea of a revolver over an auto for the durability. Lets here some of your thoughts. thanks

  2. #2
    Todd is offline Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    0
    I've got a Kel Tec P3AT as a pocket gun. It my American Express card; green and I never leave home without it.

    Disclaimer: I am not in any way endorsing illegal concealed carry.

  3. #3
    darktone is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    10
    I really don't want to carry illegal but Wisconsin does not give permits. I would hate to get caught with it by the police but I would hate to get caught without one by the crackheads. What have you heard about the .17 rimfire cartridge?

  4. #4
    PenguinRunway is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    93
    Well, I know nothing of the rimfire, but just to interject with:

    Perhaps you should look at the penalty for being caught and some of the cases that went to court... just so you'll know what will happen.

    Also not endorsing illegal carry.

  5. #5
    darktone is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    10
    Quote Originally Posted by PenguinRunway View Post
    Well, I know nothing of the rimfire, but just to interject with:

    Perhaps you should look at the penalty for being caught and some of the cases that went to court... just so you'll know what will happen.

    Also not endorsing illegal carry.

    Get cornered by two crack addicts in an alley twice in one week and I think you might have the same view I do..........

  6. #6
    PenguinRunway is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    93
    Just throwing it out there man. I'm not in your situation. Just saying you might want to see what you're up against... even if you do it anyway, it's just nice to know how screwed you are if you get caught.

    Like I said, not in your situation, just throwing it out there.

  7. #7
    darktone is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    10
    class A misdomeaner- up to a $10,000 fine and up to nine months jail. My lawyer says with no priors I would see a small fine.

  8. #8
    PenguinRunway is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    93
    Good deal.

    (not endorsing haha)

    What happens if you are carrying and fire in blatent self defense? Does the fact that you were carrying affect your self defense actions?

  9. #9
    darktone is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    10
    the only way I would fire is if it was a life or death situation and in that respect I would say I would rather be alive sitting in jail than dead. There was actually a case in Milwaukee a while back where a pizza delivery guy shot two muggers who tried to rob. They admitted they tried to rob him and the driver was charged six moths later and was out on a $1,500 bond. Not sure of the final outcome though.

  10. #10
    Baldy's Avatar
    Baldy is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Port St.John,FL.
    Posts
    6,741
    Welcome Darkside. I am one of the outlaws who is now able to carry within the law. Why did I carry all those years? Because I will defend my family at all cost no matter what. I will not let a peice of paper or plastic or some pencil neck politician keep me from protecting them. If I go to jail oh well that's better than a dirt overcoat.
    Now I carry a Kel-Tec .3AT all the time in my right front pocket. They are a snappy little thing that takes a little getting use to but they are worth it in my book. Good luck on your choice.

  11. #11
    PenguinRunway is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    93
    Quote Originally Posted by darktone View Post
    the only way I would fire is if it was a life or death situation and in that respect I would say I would rather be alive sitting in jail than dead.
    Good point, especially if you have family.

  12. #12
    Maximo's Avatar
    Maximo is offline Supporting Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Dallas/Ft. Worth
    Posts
    891
    Quote Originally Posted by Baldy View Post
    Welcome Darkside. I am one of the outlaws who is now able to carry within the law. Why did I carry all those years? Because I will defend my family at all cost no matter what. I will not let a peice of paper or plastic or some pencil neck politician keep me from protecting them. If I go to jail oh well that's better than a dirt overcoat.
    Now I carry a Kel-Tec .3AT all the time in my right front pocket. They are a snappy little thing that takes a little getting use to but they are worth it in my book. Good luck on your choice.


    DITTO!

  13. #13
    2400's Avatar
    2400 is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    AZ
    Posts
    2,744
    Welcome to the forum, glad you're here! New guy buys cigars.

  14. #14
    urf's Avatar
    urf
    urf is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    New York City
    Posts
    10
    Welcome to the forum. The Kel-Tec P3AT is a decent choice. I carried one for approx 2 years. Some advice, (1) Gun laws are always changing, & (2) NEVER trust a lawyer.

  15. #15
    darktone is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    10
    Well since my first post I had another confrontation with two undesirables while I was picking up a customers car they started yelling obscenities at us and started coming towards us. We went back in the building until they left. They were rough looking like they had been sleeping outside
    Another guy that works at a place I do business with had two undesirables rear end him in a beater during his lunch hour and drove off.
    A shooting a few blocks from work leaves one in critical condition.
    I found out why our crime has gone from the typical small mid-western city crime to big city crime in a few years- a retirement community just outside city limits has been converted into a half way house for sex criminals and they come into town unsupervised during the day and when they are done with the halfway house some just stay here in our city and live off the system. Also the city manager has been doing some type of charter program to raise cash for his projects. What the charter program does is relocate people from the Chicago/Rockford area to our town. But the people they relocate here are criminals just out of prison........................

  16. #16
    Maximo's Avatar
    Maximo is offline Supporting Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Dallas/Ft. Worth
    Posts
    891
    Quote Originally Posted by darktone View Post
    Well since my first post I had another confrontation with two undesirables while I was picking up a customers car they started yelling obscenities at us and started coming towards us. We went back in the building until they left. They were rough looking like they had been sleeping outside
    Another guy that works at a place I do business with had two undesirables rear end him in a beater during his lunch hour and drove off.
    A shooting a few blocks from work leaves one in critical condition.
    I found out why our crime has gone from the typical small mid-western city crime to big city crime in a few years- a retirement community just outside city limits has been converted into a half way house for sex criminals and they come into town unsupervised during the day and when they are done with the halfway house some just stay here in our city and live off the system. Also the city manager has been doing some type of charter program to raise cash for his projects. What the charter program does is relocate people from the Chicago/Rockford area to our town. But the people they relocate here are criminals just out of prison........................


    You have to love it when small town "leaders" make deals to accept criminal overflow from the big city to fund their pet projects. There would be a Remax sign in my front yard.

  17. #17
    FallGuy's Avatar
    FallGuy is offline Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    NC
    Posts
    189
    Glad you are here. Check out this thread P9 compared to PM9
    I have one of these and it is a good gun that is very concealable.

  18. #18
    darktone is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    10
    That Kahr looks like a nice gun. I have to go shopping this weekend and handle a few of these guns I have been looking at on the web.
    Evidently this city manager has done the same thing in the last two cities he was manager in- last week the city had to settle a lawsuit because he fired a sick employee just so they could cut costs. A lot of money this saved them.

  19. #19
    Stonebraker's Avatar
    Stonebraker is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Arizona, U.S.A.
    Posts
    11
    One of my favorites is a Ruger SP101 in .357.

  20. #20
    Stonebraker's Avatar
    Stonebraker is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Arizona, U.S.A.
    Posts
    11
    One of my favorites is Ruger SP 101 in .357.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •