View Poll Results: What is Your Opinion of Fobus Holsters?
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They are the Best Holster Money Can Buy!
They are Junk - At any Price!
They are an Excellent Value!
Duh......What's a Fobus?
Its been awhile since I've revisited this thread. Like many CCW holders, I've collected many holsters over the years, with several for the same gun.
Plastic and Kydex holsters are at the low end of the market with leather and horsehide being more premium products. Each has their place and each has their price.
In my mind the natural competition for Fobus has been Comptac, Uncle Mikes, Blackhawk Serpa, Blade Tech, etc. Until now, I believed Galco's competition was Mitch Rosen, Alessi, DeSantis, Bianchi, etc. But the passion that the Galco employees on this forum have attacked Fobus leaves me confused as to where they see themselves in the marketplace.
Who is Galco's real competition? What is the strategy we are seeing here? Is Galco repositioning downmarket?
Frankly, the approach to attack posts about Fobus without providing a supporting argument is alienating and not very smart. How much customer service can a company afford selling a $20 product vs. $80?
Here's some free advice: Run a promotion that allows folks to trade in their "crappy" Fobus holster for a credit towards some nice Galco leather.
Make money, not waves.
Galco competes in multiple price points:
In the entry-level price point, we have the Matrix and Carry Lite series.
In the middle, we have the Cop Series.
In the upper tier we have what are probably our most well-known stuff like the FLETCH, Concealable, Royal Guard, Miami Classic, etc.
We also do some high-end horsehide and custom work.
I'm not saying that there aren't other quality holster makers out there. I've always admitted that. There are lots of great, truly custom guys out there. Sparks, Kramer, Rosen and others do fine work at the upper end. DeSantis and Hume, among others, do good work in the middle. BladeTech and Uncle Mike's do very decent plastic at the entry level.
I have a low opinion of Fobus not because they are a competitor, but based on handling many of their products. I've never seen a Fobus I'd consider carrying, whether I worked for Galco or in a job outside the gun industry. Everyone's mileage may vary, and some people clearly like their Fobus holsters, but the thread did ask for opinions.
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I agree that opinions are what were asked for and ultimately the reason many of us follow threads on this forum. I definitely respect the opinion of those who have much more experience than I and many of you do.
Originally Posted by Mike Barham
With your position at a holster manufacturer, I hope to receive and use your opinion on holsters as well as other subjects. So, when you provide an opinion such as your "opinion of Fobus is low", I look to you for the reasoning behind that statement. You do call it "flimsy", but I want to know if that is from design differences (flaws), poor materials (light plastic), not enough rivets...I have two Fobus holsters and bought each for less than $17. To me they're a good value but, if you were to elaborate on their flimsy construction and point out how other products were more structurally sound and better for certain purposes like CC, I'd listen and possibly purchase based on the constructive information. It might even save my life. So keep the opinions coming and back them with as much info as you can. WE'RE LISTENING !!!
Has either of the following already been said?
1) You can snatch a Fobus holster, gun and all, off of its paddle if you pull on it correctly. The rivets give way pretty easily under pressure in the right direction.
2) The Fobus made for the Government Model and 1911A1 lets the pistol's muzzle protrude quite a ways below the bottom of the holster. If you're wearing one, and you sit down in dust or dirt (in the field), you end up with serious amounts of crud in your gun's barrel, creating an unsafe condition.
There is a Youtube video in this thread, demonstrating point #1. Point #2 is noted and good, constructive, information.
Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1
I saw the youtube post as well. If you are expecting to be wrasslin' over your gun, why would you have an open top holster much less a paddle?
Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1
This point has me wondering...
Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1
All my CCW holsters have an open bottom - leather, paddle and belt. Presumably this is a good thing as it allows debris to drop from rather than plug the barrel and air to circulate. The only way I can see avoiding the condition described would be to have closed bottom holster, IWB or shoulder carry. Or you can go Mexican.
I'm not a fan of minimalist Yaqui style holsters as you are right, it does leave a lot of the gun exposed and in some leather variants, can hang up on the front sight during a draw.
It's not a matter of "wrasslin' over [a] gun." It's a matter of a weakness in the basic design. The fact that the holster can be ripped from its paddle leads me to believe that normal wear-and-tear will also eventually result in a catastrophic failure.
Originally Posted by submoa
None of us expect to "be wrasslin' over [a] gun," but it could happen. Does that mean that we should use only thick, heavy, triple-retention cop holsters for concealed carry? That seems to be a very silly conclusion to draw from the minor possibility of an occurrence.
It's not a mere open bottom, which is what many holsters have. Most of those holsters extend some small amount past the pistol's muzzle anyway, as a protective measure.
Originally Posted by submoa
The Fobus lets almost two inches of slide hang out, down below the end of the holster.
I think that Fobus did that so the same holster would "fit" both full-size and Commander-size 1911s.
Anyway, it bespeaks cheapness and corner-cutting.
And so do those damn rivets.
New Slogan: "Fobus: it's no way to make a holster."
Just my opinion, of course...
Fobus holsters are not liked by many that I've heard from mainly due to finish wear. I have a couple of them and yes they will wear a finish some..But to me it seems they only wear so much then seems to almost stop. I think it's the pressure points that get the most wear. Unlike a leather rig that will tend to cause wear over more of the gun and it will always do that.
Most the Fobus fans I know are also poly frame pistol fans they work really well for that. I am not as big a fan of poly frame pistols leaning to more old school types like a 1911 the leather just seems a better fit for me. I had them for my Glocks and they were great. I don't own a Glock anymore and don't see myself getting a other one I don't see myself getting another I probably wont get any more Fobus holsters any time soon. But they do work. You get your moneys worth out of them in my experience.
I still have two of them.One bought for a XD9 compact (RH) and one I got for a Glock 17-19 (LH). Maybe one day I'll find something to fit them again..Then again..like I've said more than once. I don't see myself ever owning another Glock I just don't care much for them personally. Good pistols..Just not one that I'm real fond of in my hands.
I personally tried Fobus holsters twice and returned them both. The first one was for a Glock 27 and it was when the Fobus holster first became popular in the U.S. I had problems from the start. I never got used to the draw and half the time the weapon would not release and I would either jerk the entire holster off or pull my pants up (rather forcefully I might add, which was unpleasant to say the least). I was uncomfortable with this and returned the holster.
Some years later I tried one again, this time for a S&W J frame. Same issue. I never got the draw figured out and same holster off/pants up issues. The holster went back.
I do know seveal people who love the Fobus holsters and I certainly do not think they are junk. My experience has not been positive but they may work well for some. I found that the sport holster from Glock is a similar system and that has worked great for me.
I going to get some in LH as soon as I can My local gun shop owner and all his employees use these for daily carry with no complaints.
If i could carry openly, I would have no problem with the fobus paddle holsters, it has really good retention and I like the way it feels, but it sticks out a too far. But ccw it does not work for me. I think custom is the only way to go. I started using a comptac c-tac holster for concealed carry and it is the best I have seen. I think its just a matter of price as well, 25.00 for my fobus vs 80+ for the c-tac. If you are going to spend 400.00 on a gun, spend a hundred more and get a setup that is exactly what works for you.
I have several Fobus paddle holsters, mostly for Glocks and one for a 4" smith k-frame. The are good range holsters or "work on the farm holsters". In my experience they hold the weapon securely, are easy to access and are impervious to the elements. Here in Florida, after a day of working outside, I am drenched in sweat as is my leather holster, which is one reason that I switch to a kydeyx holster when I am working outside in the heat.
I do not use Fobus for concealment as there are many other better options for that duty. I also do not like the fobus line of paddle mag holders.
I view holsters like shoes, I have work boots, casual shoes, athletic shoes, and dress shoes. Similarly, I usually have multiple holsters for any weapon that is a potential ccw.
Back on topic.
I'll agree with that.
Originally Posted by Old Padawan
for the popular makes and models of guns. Hard to find what I want for my PT745. I don't see any on the Galco web site for it. I've got a High Noon IWB for it, and I'll continue to use a Fobus for an OWB until I can find something else.
There are a BUNCH of them out there,
again I'll agree.
and they don’t have to be expensive.
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I picked one up for my PT92 (my 22 year old, cosmetically showing its age PT92). I can see where finish wear would be an issue on the front of the trigger guard, but since this gun isn't a looker, its not an issue for me. I will be using it exclusively for a weekly shooting league competition, and since it draws nicely and feels better the more I use it, and the price was right, I'm happy with it.
Not sure I want to jump into all this bantering, but I'm a glutton for punishment.
I've owned Don Hume, Bianchi, Galco and FIST-Inc, leather, and honestly, I have not found one yet to be comfortable, seems I always am aware I have it on. With Fobus, I honestly forget the gun is there. Only thing I don't like about the Fobus is the set cant, no adjustment. Well until the introduced the Roto. I have one on order for my new Sig P239 and fully expect to be happy with it.
Holsters is to guns as Chevy is to Ford. Everyone has their own preference. I say if it works them great!
I have a roto for my Sigma .40 and so far I like it. I use it mostly for backyard range shooting.
Fobus is alright. Ive had a few. One was real difficult to draw from. I sent em back because I realized that its silly to buy a decent gun and not put it in a decent holster. I hope that didnt come out wrong. I dont mean that the Fobus isnt a decent holster. I just decided I was going to spend the amount of money I thought appropriate and buy a nice leather holster for myself.
Folks will spend hundreds on several cheap holsters and then realize they have 10 holsters they paid 10-20 bucks for and then end up buying a holster for 50-150 thats just better.
Does that make sense? Heck I dont want to offend. If you dig the Fobus, use it. I just wanted a slide holster that was leather.
I havent even bought it yet LOL. Probably a Don Hume or Side Guard. Ive looked at both and am just on the fence. High Noon looks good too.
So to finally answer the question, no, I dont really love Fobus holsters. But... I may buy one for the KelTec for some variety. Hows that for diplomacy? LOL
Inexpensive and you can find them everywhere. . . but I don't use them. I have a couple as loaners when we go camping or shoot in the desert. If I lose it, no big loss in my opinion.
I like and use fobus as a range holster or for my side arm when hunting or camping. For me they are not much good at concealment but do represent a good value for certain appplications. I have used them for Glocks, 1911's and revolvers and never had a problem. I bought a new roto style for my SP101 and I like it's cant and tension versatility.
One gripe and caution to fellow LH's out there though. Despite the online ordering comments section were you can clearly specify LH or RH I have had them ignore it and send a RH anyway. If that model doesn't come in LH fine by me but take 2 minutes and call or e-mail the customer and let them know not just send what you want to send instead of what they need. Customer service not too thrilled about but the end product, if you get what you ordered, seems adequate for it's intended purpose.
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