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    Hello all,
    I need to know which model of Glock is absolutely the most accurate.
    Go ahead and include the caliber. This would be with factory ammunition.
    Please exclude accuracy results with handloaded ammo. Thanks, Ab

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    Some say the glock 30,,

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    Since the Glock is a practical pistol, and not anything like a target-shooting gun, the appropriate answer to your question may be: All Glocks are inherently equally accurate.
    To explore the possible answers to your question, I have to ask: What is your intended purpose for the Glock you eventually choose?
    An ancillary question, also diagnostic, is: How much pistol shooting experience do you now have?
    Further: How accurately do you now shoot? With what?

    Generally speaking, all self-defense pistols are inherently more accurate than they need to be. Certainly, they are inherently more accurate than most of the people who shoot them.
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    Steve,
    First of all, thanks for your interest.
    My buddies and I were shooting our Glocks from a shooting bench off of a sandbag at a measured 35'.
    My friend the Captain had his G20/10mm. My cousin the Chief had his G22/.40 and I had my G19/9mm.
    We all are accomplished shooters and older than 40. We shot our own and then rotated pistols between us several times.
    We all had quality factory ammo, XTP's if I remember correctly. Captain's G20 outshot the G22 and the G19 every time.
    The G20 shot one ragged hole every time with every shooter. The G22 and G19 both shot 2 to 2-1/2" or smaller groups every time.
    I am looking to figure which model I could buy, excluding the long barrel target models, that had less percussion and whose ammunition
    I could afford. I was hoping I would get an overwhelming response that the G21SF .45 was the one.
    I like the G30S also. Use would be truck and range gun. Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slickab View Post
    Steve,
    First of all, thanks for your interest.
    My buddies and I were shooting our Glocks from a shooting bench off of a sandbag at a measured 35'.
    My friend the Captain had his G20/10mm. My cousin the Chief had his G22/.40 and I had my G19/9mm.
    We all are accomplished shooters and older than 40. We shot our own and then rotated pistols between us several times.
    We all had quality factory ammo, XTP's if I remember correctly. Captain's G20 outshot the G22 and the G19 every time.
    The G20 shot one ragged hole every time with every shooter. The G22 and G19 both shot 2 to 2-1/2" or smaller groups every time.
    I am looking to figure which model I could buy, excluding the long barrel target models, that had less percussion and whose ammunition
    I could afford. I was hoping I would get an overwhelming response that the G21SF .45 was the one.
    I like the G30S also. Use would be truck and range gun. Thanks again.
    The accuracy of my G19 improved remarkably after I installed a Ghost Evo Elite trigger kit. The main improvement is that the trigger weight is steady without loading up just before releasing the striker. another benefit is that you can eliminate overtravel while still getting a positive and distinct reset. There is a spring kit included that is recommended for range work and not for duty or carry. All in all it is a bargain for $45 and an hour or two of fitting.

    GW

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    Will go to their website and check it out. I don't really want to mess with the trigger on my G19 as it is my sometimes CCW. Thanks

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    In my experience (none of it with Glocks), the ammunition one uses determines the pistol's extreme accuracy.

    Since you are a reasonably experienced pistol shooter, I suggest that you might buy an assortment of appropriate 9mm ammunition for your pistol, take it all with a ruler, a pencil, and a pad of paper to the range, and just try as many different loads as you can afford to buy.
    Try every bullet weight you can access, round-nose and hollow-point, and maybe even +P and +P+ loads (if Glock says that it's OK).
    Write down your results and take careful notes.

    Among those many loads will be one which will deliver your gun's best accuracy.
    However, it may not be a useful self-defense load.

    Maybe start with three-shot groups, using your very best grip and trigger control. That will indicate the few most accurate loads for further experiment.
    (I suggest that 35 feet isn't much of a test, though. Try 15 yards, instead. If you're brave, 25 yards is even better.)
    Go for group size only, paying no attention to where the shots actually hit the target (which may not be at your aiming point).
    Then do it again with the best loads, but firing five-shot groups this time.

    That should give you useful information.

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    Good, very thoughtful advice. You covered all the bases with that one.
    I see we share one love, John Moses Browning's masterpiece, the model of 1911.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slickab View Post
    ...I see we share one love, John Moses Browning's masterpiece, the model of 1911.
    The M1911/M1911A1 platform is not only sufficiently accurate and powerful for any social purpose, but it is also almost indestructible, field-repairable without any tools, easy for most men to carry (but perhaps not most women), easy for any person over the age of 10 to shoot, and ęsthetically pleasing as both a weapon and as a puzzle sculpture (for comparisons of which, see the puzzle sculptures of Miguel Berrocal).

    What more could one ask?

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    Sounds like Coke of Pepsi to me................

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    Quote Originally Posted by slickab View Post
    Steve,
    First of all, thanks for your interest.
    My buddies and I were shooting our Glocks from a shooting bench off of a sandbag at a measured 35'.
    My friend the Captain had his G20/10mm. My cousin the Chief had his G22/.40 and I had my G19/9mm.
    We all are accomplished shooters and older than 40. We shot our own and then rotated pistols between us several times.
    We all had quality factory ammo, XTP's if I remember correctly. Captain's G20 outshot the G22 and the G19 every time.
    The G20 shot one ragged hole every time with every shooter. The G22 and G19 both shot 2 to 2-1/2" or smaller groups every time.
    I am looking to figure which model I could buy, excluding the long barrel target models, that had less percussion and whose ammunition
    I could afford. I was hoping I would get an overwhelming response that the G21SF .45 was the one.
    I like the G30S also. Use would be truck and range gun. Thanks again.
    So, your conclusion is? As a whole, stock G-30's are more accurate than either stock G-22's or G-19's shooting XTP ammo? I believe we have way too many variables in that hypothesis to make it an established theory at this point. All things being equal, I would suspect those long Glock race guns(G-34's for example) may have an edge in the bench accuracy department due mainly to it's longer barrel and sight radius.
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    Howdy,

    Kind of a lame BS question since any model of Glock pistol wit quality factory ammo, not even match grade ammo, will out shoot your or my abilities unless you happen to be one of the top bull's eye shooters in the World.

    Paul

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    Sorry , I was out of line. Stupid comment I made, I have to admit.

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    I'm lost.... did I miss something here?

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