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    New guy from Georgia

    Hi folks,

    I found the site while researching glocks. I have a S&W .357 mag (revolver) an H&R.32, and more long guns than I need.

    I'd like to buy a glock for personal protection and some fun competition. So far I am pretty set on the 19c.

    I do have questions.
    Does the compensated model adversely affect muzzle velocity or accuracy?
    Iíd like a lighter trigger pull, is the standard 5.5 lb. a problem?


    Any advice is welcome.

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    Welcome Mr.P. I can't anwser your questions as I never shot a Glock. There will be some of the other guys on here tis evening who can do that. I am into .45s/.38s/&.357s myself. Jump in and enjoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baldy View Post
    Welcome Mr.P. I can't anwser your questions as I never shot a Glock. There will be some of the other guys on here tis evening who can do that. I am into .45s/.38s/&.357s myself. Jump in and enjoy.
    Thanks, Baldy! Much appreciated.

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    I tried to find the thread, so I could save myself some typing - but I could not.

    Comped guns are not good for personal protection. Just briefly:

    They will be much louder (I had a comped 45 in the past - was typically the loudest gun on the range)

    They shoot debris thru the comp holes. If U ever have to shoot the gun near your body in a self defensive situation, U could get hit in the face with debris.

    They are very bright when shot at night - the flash travels upwards. Depending on your ammo, it may blind U temporarily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shipwreck View Post
    I tried to find the thread, so I could save myself some typing - but I could not.

    Comped guns are not good for personal protection. Just briefly:

    They will be much louder (I had a comped 45 in the past - was typically the loudest gun on the range)

    They shoot debris thru the comp holes. If U ever have to shoot the gun near your body in a self defensive situation, U could get hit in the face with debris.

    They are very bright when shot at night - the flash travels upwards. Depending on your ammo, it may blind U temporarily.
    Thanks for that info, Shipwreck. I hadn't thought about debris.

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    Welcome and Howdy from Texass

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    I see I forgot to say hello in my prev thread

    As for the comp - when I had my 45, I KNEW that was not a gun I wanted to use indoors in a self defense situation. You would have NO hearing left

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    Hey Mr.P- welcome!

    I actually posed this same question about porting a while back. I think this is the thread Shipwreak was looking for.
    Porting?

    I shoot and carry a Glock 23. Iíve been carrying it for the last four days (just got my CCW) Iíve owned the G23 for about ten years. Itís a second generation (no finger grooves). I like the .40 but may move up to a .45 someday but have only shoot a .45 once. I started out on a .38/.357 then went to a .44 mag.

    Youíll enjoy the Glock. Itís not a looker but it shoots great! It one of those guns people either hate or love, not many in-betweens.

    Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tnoisaw View Post
    Hey Mr.P- welcome!

    I actually posed this same question about porting a while back. I think this is the thread Shipwreak was looking for.
    Porting?

    I shoot and carry a Glock 23. I’ve been carrying it for the last four days (just got my CCW) I’ve owned the G23 for about ten years. It’s a second generation (no finger grooves). I like the .40 but may move up to a .45 someday but have only shoot a .45 once. I started out on a .38/.357 then went to a .44 mag.

    You’ll enjoy the Glock. It’s not a looker but it shoots great! It one of those guns people either hate or love, not many in-betweens.

    Good luck.
    Thanks for that link, tnoisaw! Shoots great is what I want, hey that's really all that counts, right? (not really but) I'm trying to decide on a model now, and the compensated or non-compensated barrel. I'm leaning toward the 9mm.

    Charlie: Thanks for the welcome, ya'll need some help with that border or do ya have er under control? Hey, I hear Congress just approved 700 miles of fence. I don't know where they plan to start it though.

    Shipwreck: No problem thanks for the welcome and the info.

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    I once had a comped barrel in a Glock 17 - back in 1995 or 1996 I think - A comp in a 9mm gun really isn't worth it. The 9mm cartidge doesn't have enough pressure to really make the comp do much...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shipwreck View Post
    I once had a comped barrel in a Glock 17 - back in 1995 or 1996 I think - A comp in a 9mm gun really isn't worth it. The 9mm cartidge doesn't have enough pressure to really make the comp do much...
    Thoughts on trigger pull, Shipwreck? In your opinion, is it worth changing to the 3.5 lb. pull vs staying with the factory 5.5 lb.pull? It's not much $$, 12 or 14 bucks I think I saw on one vender site. Keeping in mind my intent is both protection and maybe some light competition.

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    Well, every Glock I have had, except for my current Glock 34 - I ALWAYS shot low and to the left - This is a common issue for people getting used to the Glock. Many people, with enough practice, beat this. But, The Glock was not my only gun, so I didn't practice exclusively with it. And, no matter how much I practiced, I never could get over this...


    EXCEPT for the Glock 34 - It comes stock w/ the 3.5 lb connector. It shoots perfect for me - no low and to the left problems.

    Now, that being said - it comes stock this way. Many people get the heebie-jeebies adjusting the trigger weight themselves for a self-defense gun. The idea is that it may cause U problems if U shot someone when U go to ct.

    I don't know if I worry about this or not - but, it was in the back of my head. And, it was 1 reason why I never altered the connector in the Glock 26 I used to own for 8 years. IN fact, there is an entire thread on this somewhere on this website.

    Anyway, since the Glock 34 comes this way, "I" didn't adjust anything. But, I also do not carry it (its too big, and I like my compact P99 for that). My Glock 34 had a light attached to it, and it is my night stand gun.

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    ~ Hey there Mr. P ...
    I don't shot glocks but I always hear good things about them. Mike from Galco seems to know a great deal about them ... he can probably help you. Not alot of help from me I know but I just thought I'd say Welcome to camp...

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    I think there may be a thread on reducing the trigger too. I have also wondered this but many oppose it for legal reasons for a carry gun. Itís them Da&* attorneys. Iím still considering it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rustycompass View Post
    ~ Hey there Mr. P ...
    I don't shot glocks but I always hear good things about them. Mike from Galco seems to know a great deal about them ... he can probably help you. Not alot of help from me I know but I just thought I'd say Welcome to camp...
    Thanks for the welcome, rustycompass!

    I haven't heard or read a bad thing about em yet myself, cept some say they're ugly. I don't think they are, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder, ya know.

    Anyway, I have the pleasure of being around many Police Officers that carry the .40 cal, and they all say they love it. Now, these folks shot all the time, so I gotta listen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tnoisaw View Post
    I think there may be a thread on reducing the trigger too. I have also wondered this but many oppose it for legal reasons for a carry gun. Itís them Da&* attorneys. Iím still considering it.
    I can get this 3.5 lb option when I order.

    Why would that be a legal problem?

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    Some say a prosecutor would look at it as a modified weapon with a hair trigger and make you look like a looney gun nut. Iíve not heard any legal cases on it though. I figure if a 1911 could shoot with a 3.5 trigger why not my Glock. And what about single action revolvers? Iím sure many of them are around the same weight.

    I just read an article about a S&W Model 28 which broke at 3.5 pounds out of the box. I may just chance it.

    As you said, If you can get that option when you order it then why the problem? I don't know. I think it stems from our sue happy society and everybody being gun shy. No pun intended.

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    I have never heard of Glock offereing a choice in connector weights except for the Glock 34 and Glock 35 - U can buy the standard or lighter trigger for those guns. Any other mods is being done by someone else (your gun shop) - Let me again state that this is to my knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shipwreck View Post
    I have never heard of Glock offereing a choice in connector weights except for the Glock 34 and Glock 35 - U can buy the standard or lighter trigger for those guns. Any other mods is being done by someone else (your gun shop) - Let me again state that this is to my knowledge.
    I guess that's correct, the option is added at the dealer not by glock. A list of available accessories. Note: one is a glock part.
    Here's a link to what I'm looking at.

    http://www.glockworld.com/glock_compact.htm#glock19

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    The potential issue is that someone could point U out for making the gun have a hair trigger - making U out to be a crazy gun nut (what the DA or other side in a law suit might say). People toss this topic around endlessly on gun forums. Its been discussed here, and many, many, many times on other forums. It's a never ending topic, actually. U just gotta decide how much stock U put into it.

    I can admit that there would be a difference possibly in getting the G34 w/ the trigger like that FROM Glock, as opposed to modifying it afterwards. If it is a range gun only, then it could be a non issue.

    realize, especially as a novice to guns, if you have your gun out in a self-defense situation and you are startled by someone - it is possible U could fire the gun accidentally. The lighter the trigger, the more likely this can occur - hence, why people are cautioning U here.

    Like I said - different people put different stock in this entire issue. U must decide for yourself...

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