Originally Posted by TheLAGuy

That's kinda light. Must be for the experienced shooter.

its for IDPA or whatever the professional shooting organizations are
Dave Sevigny has won over 170 major championship titles and was with the glock 34

OK I have to be a smart ass, buy mine would be a Wilson .45 ACP. Not a huge glock fan.

Why arent you a huge fan of the glock?

Glock 30sf.

What do you think of the beretta or s&w?

I own a Glock 19 and 36. The 36 is probably going on the choppin block. The 19 (RTF2 model) is going nowhere. That said, I also own 3 M&Ps. And may trade the Glock 36 for a 4th.
The M&Ps are what I carry and shoot most.

Originally Posted by TheLAGuy

What do you think of the beretta or s&w?

which models?
the beretta 92fs is wonderfully reliable - over 20,000 rounds to failure with out cleaning - its good enough for the military - my son wears one in IRAQ and AFGHANISTAN. he hasn't complained about it - but most military love their rifles

I've never owned and shot a S&W! - i'm keeping it that way tooo

Originally Posted by hideit

which models?
the beretta 92fs is wonderfully reliable - over 20,000 rounds to failure with out cleaning - its good enough for the military - my son wears one in IRAQ and AFGHANISTAN. he hasn't complained about it - but most military love their rifles

I've never owned and shot a S&W! - i'm keeping it that way tooo

why no s&w? just have heard bad things about them? they seem reasonably priced and look pretty nice. right now its a toss up between beretta, s&w, and glock. i like the glocks but considering i'm a first time gun owner, i figure the extra safety features might be worth it. im thinking possibly either beretta 92fs (my friend has a brand new one basically for $500, is that a good deal?).

or possibly s&w which i havent tried out yet.

thanks for the help guys!