What do you think guys?
Which would you pick and why?
What do you think guys?
Which would you pick and why?
For me, that's a hard one. My primary carry gun is one of my gen3 G23's. However, if I had to have just one Glock, my gen3 G19 would be high on the list. I suppose in the final analysis, it would have to be my primary G23.
.357 SIG hands down.
My G17 and G21 are both fine weapons.
10MM. I've got plenty of other 9s.:mrgreen:
I only own one glock and it's a glock 26. I chose the glock 26 over the glock 19 just because you can make a glock 26 bigger, but you cannot make a 19 smaller. A glock 26 will accept a 19's barrel, and a 19 or 17 magazine. You can even get grip extensions for those magazines. They are all great guns.
I like the 9mm over the 40 cal because you get more shots and about the same ballistics. For example, Shooting Illustrated posts penetration and expansion test in jello and came up with these examples: 9mm 124 +P Rem Golden Saber 15" penetration with .64 expansion, 40 cal 180 grain golden saber 15.5" penetration with .65 expansion. And, 9mm 124 +P speer gold dot 13.25 penetration and .71 expansion. 40 cal 155 grain 13" penetration and .68 expansion. Most modern high quality ammo gets about the same results with penetration and expansion with service calibers. So why not go with the one that costs less, has less recoil, and affords you more rounds. This is why I like the 9mm and think the Glock 26, 19, and 17 are all great guns. I didn't consider a 17 because I already had a Beretta 92fs.
One more example, Federal HST post results such as 9mm 124 +P 10" penetration and .87 expansion. 40 cal 165 grain 12" penetration and .87 expansion.
I'm not knocking any other calibers and the above is just my opinion. Choose whatever you like :)
I'm leaving towards the G19 but we'll see. I've gone back and forth with this one.
To the poster above, do you prefer the glock over the beretta? lets tell the truth! ;)
I think the Glock and the Beretta are both great guns. They are also apples and oranges. I guess I would say that I would rather have my Beretta 92 than have a Glock 17. I would also rather have my Glock 26 than have the Beretta P X 4 storm (subcompact). That is an honest answer. For a light weight sub-compact I prefer the Glock 26, but for a full size 9mm I much prefer the Beretta 92 fs. Again, these are just my personal preferences and I'm not knocking anyone else's preferences. What is really important for you is just what you like.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLAGuy
LAGuy, if you don't mind me asking what is your age and what if any experience do you have with firearms other than the classes you are currently taking? Do you have any friends or family w/ firearms or firearm experience, and lastly, you should if you can rent the pistols you are interested in and shoot them if at all possible. "What is really important for you is just what you like."
caliber wise: 9mm
will always be able to get ammo where ever you are or go
basically i think it is a world wide standard
I have seen tests of the Federal 165gr HST penetrating 16.5" in simtest with 4 layers of denim in front with an expansion of .63". With the Gold Dot 165gr "hot" load, this same media resulted in 14 5/8" penetration with .646" of expansion.Quote:
Originally Posted by jdw68
Either of these loads are at the top of the premium choices in 165gr .40S&W carry ammunition.
BTW, I have tests of the Federal 124gr +P HST into simtest fronted with four layers of denim and the result was 14 3/4" of penetration at .602" of expansion.
denner, I'm a 33 y/o male, live in Los Angeles. I don't have a whole lot of experience with fire arms. I've been to the range about 6-8 times in my life. I've fired a Beretta about 5 yrs ago, most recently a Glock 19 when I took a 4 hour class (basic hand gun training). I was happy with the G19 I must say. I know theres other stuff out there, but here in CA, you have to go with another person to the range if you want to rent other guns. I think I'm ready to pull the trigger on the G19.Quote:
Originally Posted by denner
I do only have one Glock, and it's a 10mm G20. I like it a lot - very accurate, despite feeling like a brick in my hand.
I would own more, but the XD line suits me slightly better.
Springfield? Aren't those quite a bit cheaper?
get what you pay for
i don't like the XD's
you liked the glock 19 so get it
most of the decision on a gun is how it fits your hand - if it fits you must buy
lol
Aren't springfields known as kinda the cheaper part of the semi-autos?
I do like the G19 at first I was going to go with the G17, but considering resale value, I cant hold extra rounds due to CA law, and a little bit smaller, I'm thinking the G19.
You got a glock so no matter what caliber your going to get you'll be set. 9, 40, 45, 357sig, whatever.
I recommend 9 for the economical value, cheaper bullets higher capacity
Do you recommend the 9 if you live in CA and can only have 10 in your magazine?
15 rounds of 10mm goodness
Yeah I forgot about that. Well if you think about it though you still will have more ammo stockpiled for cheaper if you go with the 9. I don't know if your into prepping, but if you were, you would still wanna go with 9. It is still cheaper to shoot after all. I'm not huge into the caliber wars. I think as long as your putting holes into things that the size of the hole doesn't matter as much a where. If you feel you want more bite then upgrade to the .40 cal or even .45, in the end it still doesnt matter...Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLAGuy
Yeah i'm thinking start with a 9, then I can get another .45 in a few months if I feel necessary!Quote:
Originally Posted by jakeleinen1
You'll be making a good choice. 9mm is a fantastic round. .45 for me has about the same felt recoil but the grip on the 9s are less bulky then the 45sQuote:
Originally Posted by TheLAGuy
How can you say that? Don't the 9's, .40's and 45's come with the same "look"?Quote:
Originally Posted by jakeleinen1
"Look" does not equal size, just shape.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLAGuy
the glock 34, 9mm, comes with a target trigger
3lbs i think