Do you carry your Glock condition 1?

For those who can legally carry, either open or (preferably) concealed......do you carry your Glock with one in the pipe?

Took me a bit of time to work up the comfort and confidence in myself and my gun to carry this way, since Glocks have no external safety, but after only a few weeks its become second nature to me. Anyone have strong thoughts for or against this? I think if you have a secure holster that completely buries the trigger you have nothing to worry about. I wear the DeSantis IWB holster around 4 o clock that provides a nice deep carry but allows me to get a decent purchase on the gun when I draw at the range.

Glock, M&P, revolver, Makarov, or 1911 (or any else for that matter) all carried loaded and ready.

If it's not in Condition One, then your self-defense pistol is about as useful as a lightweight rock.

If you are afraid to carry a gun in Condition One, maybe you should re-think this whole self-defense business.
I understand that Israeli Krav-Maga is the coming thing in unarmed self-defense.
But I wouldn't know: I carry a loaded, ready-to-use pistol. (I'm too old for all that physical exertion.)

Yepp, once I spoke with a few fellow enthusiasts recently and realized how detrimental an unloaded pistol situation could be....from any number of potential situations....I realized that carrying C1 was the best option all things considered. I carried Israeli style for the last 2 years or so and always re-assured myself that taking a second to rack the slide in a situation was no big deal....until I watched my first Tueller drill demonstration. I wouldnt stand a chance...very few on this planet would. Lesson learned...thats why I love these gun communities!

+1 steve - the too old bit.

Or you could use this.

http://www.rusmilitary.com/images/efa2k_holster.gif

EFA-2 belt holster

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Russian belts Makarov belt shoulder holsters

condition 1, always. everything else is self defeating

All of my carry guns are carried in full battery. And none of them have any external safeties. Just another impediment to doing what needs to be done if and when called upon. My opinion, of course... your mileage may vary.

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Originally Posted by ponzer04

Or you could use this.
http://www.rusmilitary.com/images/efa2k_holster.gif

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I hope you're joking. That is a ridiculous gimmick. Chamber a round then holster the weapon. In a proper holster, not some foolish gadget.

Absolutely. It's no good otherwise.

1 in the chamber otherwise I'm just transporting a weight.

When I lose confidence in my ability to safely carry a loaded gun, I'll just wear overalls and open-carry a claw hammer in the hammer loop.

Carrying the Glock with one in the chamber is no different that carrying a double action revolver with a loaded cylinder. Carry it loaded and ............... be ready.

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Originally Posted by SMann

I hope you're joking. That is a ridiculous gimmick. Chamber a round then holster the weapon. In a proper holster, not some foolish gadget.

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I was only half joking with this one. I first heard of it on an episode of "Deadliest Warrior" season 1 episode 6 Green Beret vs. Spetznaz the pistol holster combo is talked about 30 minutes into the episode. Deadliest Warrior is on netflix instant and originally played on Spike's

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Originally Posted by SMann

I hope you're joking. That is a ridiculous gimmick. Chamber a round then holster the weapon. In a proper holster, not some foolish gadget.

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I was only half joking with this one. I first heard of it on an episode of "Deadliest Warrior" season 1 episode 6 Green Beret vs. Spetznaz the pistol holster combo is talked about 30 minutes into the episode. Deadliest Warrior is on netflix instant and originally played on Spike's

If your not gonna carry in condition 1 why bother carry at all. Some people say i can rack it if i need it......wrong answer. If they (the non 1ers) ever find thereselves in that situation they will be sorry. If you ever have to draw (and we all hope we dont) you will see how your gross motor skills tend to take over.

Should you keep your hand gun chambered in condition one or zero in the house when the gun is off your person?
Maybe you should maybe you shouldn't.You might have kids running around. Why even have a gun in the house if it's not chambered,Why, because you still have access to the gun if needed.
Why carry a gun unchambered i don't know but you still have access when needed in a hundred different situations. also my opinion ,an aggresive perp will take your gun from some who have the right to carry ,when he does take your gun it will be in position 0 or 1 ,now that's scary
And you can't practice that at the gun range. Don't forget every situational encounter or threat is different. no two are ever alike.like snowflakes,lol.
avoidance, running away, retreating, giving up your wallet are all options.

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Originally Posted by pic

Should you keep your hand gun chambered in condition one or zero in the house when the gun is off your person?
Maybe you should maybe you shouldn't.You might have kids running around. Why even have a gun in the house if it's not chambered,Why, because you still have access to the gun if needed.
Why carry a gun unchambered i don't know but you still have access when needed in a hundred different situations. also my opinion ,an aggresive perp will take your gun from some who have the right to carry ,when he does take your gun it will be in position 0 or 1 ,now that's scary
And you can't practice that at the gun range. Don't forget every situational encounter or threat is different. no two are ever alike.like snowflakes,lol.
avoidance, running away, retreating, giving up your wallet are all options.

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That wasn't the question everyone was answering...with their opinions.

If you choose to have the option to protect yourself with a gun, you also have to choose to what level of threat you are willing to protect yourself against. The more prepared you want to be for the wide variety of different scenarios that you might find yourself in, the more serious you have to be about making sure you can get a loaded gun into play.

If you have kids and have a high level of threat, you may need to keep your gun on your body. If you trust your door locks and security measures, you have numerous, less intrusive options.

Wow,

Well, I actually disagree with most of the people in here. How I carry depends greatly on where I am at. I prefer to carry a glock WITHOUT one in the chamber

Say what you will about that, but 99.9% of the time the gun is staying holstered. The .1% of the time where it comes out I still have to decide whether to take someone's life or not. I'll use that extra millisecond of contemplation to rack the slide (with proper draw/rack training).

You know if your riding around in the hood or something, you can chamber a round and then carry it. I do this kinda stuff all the time. But if your walking EVERYWHERE with a round in the chamber, kinda paranoid to me.

Just my opinion.

Jake, I do not think that prepared = paranoid. That said, I have a serious question for you.
Have you practiced drawing and racking the slide before someone can cover 21 feet? 30 feet? 45 feet? Can you do it before the reach you each time?
How about from 10 feet with a knife out?
I, when presented this challenge, was unable to draw and wrack the slide. When I KNOW I have to (competition) draw an shoot, I can do so from IWB and concealment in under 2 seconds. I can cover 30 feet on the same time.

Just some food for thought.

Listen, Im not trying to change anyones minds here, the fact that you guys carry makes me happy enough.

Fact is though
Accidental discharge is IMPOSSIBLE without a round in the chamber. Whether your carrying the most secure holster in the world or you've got 3 different safeties, if that round is in the pipe the gun can go off still due to various reasons. If your carrying in a place where people are around, that can be more dangerous then not having one in the hole when someone tries to mug you. If your in a area where you feel the need to put one in then do it for awhile. Or even if your driving, thats fine (avoid car jacking). But everywhere? No, thats putting people around me at risk.

If an encounter where someone for some reason threatens to kill me before I can round a chamber and decide if I have to kill a human being today, then I did something really wrong...

A guy I know was in a grocery store and the place was getting robbed. The robbers didn't know one of the stock guys had a gun. He chambered a round safely without them seeing and shot one while the other ran for the exit. My buddy said that it made him nervous seeing the guy not have a round already chambered, but everything worked out. I think the case where that didn't work out is rare.

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Originally Posted by pic

Should you keep your hand gun chambered in condition one or zero in the house when the gun is off your person?

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Short answer: No.

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Originally Posted by pic

...You might have kids running around...

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It's your responsibility to keep any gun out of the hands of unsupervised children, regardless of its condition. Period.
It's also your responsibility to teach your children gun safety, and to make them gun-safe.
That includes the Eddie Eagle "stop; don't touch; get an adult" mantra, but, in my mind, it also includes: "No, we don't 'play' guns. Guns aren't toys. But if you want to learn how to shoot, I'll teach you. We'll start with the safety rules, and when you've learned them really well, we'll try handling some guns for practice. Then you can learn to shoot."

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Originally Posted by jakeleinen1

...Accidental discharge is IMPOSSIBLE without a round in the chamber...

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Intentional discharge is also impossible without a round in the chamber.
I sincerely hope that you will always be able to predict when you will need to be prepared to discharge your gun intentionally.
I, on the other hand, am not as good as you are, at reading the minds of other people. That's why I carry a pistol that's always ready for immediate use.

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Originally Posted by jakeleinen1

Wow,

Well, I actually disagree with most of the people in here. How I carry depends greatly on where I am at. I prefer to carry a glock WITHOUT one in the chamber

Say what you will about that, but 99.9% of the time the gun is staying holstered. The .1% of the time where it comes out I still have to decide whether to take someone's life or not. I'll use that extra millisecond of contemplation to rack the slide (with proper draw/rack training).

You know if your riding around in the hood or something, you can chamber a round and then carry it. I do this kinda stuff all the time. But if your walking EVERYWHERE with a round in the chamber, kinda paranoid to me.

Just my opinion.

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Really? Guess we have a whole lot of paranoid LEO's moving about in our nation's states. Don't imagine too many of them carry without one in the pipe. But then again, it IS your decision to take and only you will know if you took the right one if you ever have to use your sidearm.

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Originally Posted by niadhf

Jake, I do not think that prepared = paranoid. That said, I have a serious question for you.
Have you practiced drawing and racking the slide before someone can cover 21 feet? 30 feet? 45 feet? Can you do it before the reach you each time?
How about from 10 feet with a knife out?
I, when presented this challenge, was unable to draw and wrack the slide. When I KNOW I have to (competition) draw an shoot, I can do so from IWB and concealment in under 2 seconds. I can cover 30 feet on the same time.

Just some food for thought.

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Having to rack the slide to chamber a round under extreme conditions introduces a whole lot of variables into the equation. The possibility of one's hand slipping. What if the perp got off a shot and hit the victim's support hand? In the rush of the moment, you might have a failure to feed for a number of reasons. The extra manipulation of the gun opens the possibility of hitting the magazine release, not to mention having to punch out, acquire your target, and fire. I can think of a lot of other problems with this, but suffice it to say that the less you have to do between drawing the gun and firing it, the better your chances are of surviving an extreme encounter.