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    I own an XD and after going to the range and shooting the Glock I will be buying one of these. They are really both good guns and you couldn't go wrong with either. For me thought its about how the glock feels and shoots compared to the XD. I like the glock trigger and find it easier to aim on follow up shots.

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    One of the things I like best about my Glock 22 was the ability to get the 22lr conversion kit from Tactical Solutions.
    Don't know if the XD has such.

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    They are both good guns, I have had both. Whatever you choose you have to somewhat change your shooting style somewhat because the trigger pulls are different. If you want to shoot cast bullets the Springfield can do that right out of the box whereas with the Glock you would have to put in an aftermarket barrel. Both are reliable as all get out.

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    g2gunny - you definitely need to handle (and preferably shoot) the Glock and XD side-by-side. There are noticeable differences in feel between them in terms of grip angle and texture on the grips.

    I think the XD is a pretty nice pistol but for me, the Glock is what fits me better. I also prefer the simplicity and robustness of the Glock design - for instance, no useless grip safety (remember what Jeff Cooper said about those). The "loaded chamber indicator" on the Glock is simply the extractor projecting ever so slightly from right side of the slide - no extra parts for that system.

    Good luck with your decision.

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    How do you tell the chamber is loaded on a glock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLAGuy View Post
    How do you tell the chamber is loaded on a glock?
    Drop the mag and rack the slide, if you don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bisley View Post
    Drop the mag and rack the slide, if you don't know.
    Would you take a glock over a beretta?

    My friend has Beretta 9F for sale, $500. He said there's only been 500 rounds thats gone through it. Or pay $570 + tax for a brand new g17, or g19 at Turners Outdoorsmen.

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    I NOT going to say the glock is better then the XD. But if you ask me...

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    I'm not a Beretta fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bisley View Post
    I'm not a Beretta fan.
    The way they feel? Details!

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    There is nothing wrong with them. I just prefer CZ-75 variants in that type of handgun.

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    whats a cz-75 type of handgun?

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    Go with the Glock, you won't regret it.

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    Glock has great reliability.I own a glock, love it. But without any manual safeties ,it has it's limitations.
    Reliability, problem free for any gun equals a beautiful gun..Buy a 1500.$ gun that jams, misfires,etc. watch how ugly that gun becomes

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLAGuy View Post
    How do you tell the chamber is loaded on a glock?
    With the loaded chamber indicator. It has both visual and tactile checking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pic View Post
    Glock has great reliability.I own a glock, love it. But without any manual safeties ,it has it's limitations.
    Reliability, problem free for any gun equals a beautiful gun..Buy a 1500.$ gun that jams, misfires,etc. watch how ugly that gun becomes
    I did buy an XD40, plain Jane version, 4 or 5 years ago at a gun show. I couldn't resist the price at $419 new in the box. It is not at all a bad gun however just like any other gun, it has its pluses and minuses and, of course, there is the personal preference thing. I don't keep my XD40 in my carry stable but if that was what happened to be available to me, I would certainly have no compunctions against carrying it. I like the design, feel, and features of the Glock and the Smith and Wesson M&P series better, but there we go again with that personal preference thing.

    That is why it is always a good thing if you can rent different guns at a range or have friends who will go with you and let you try their guns out. The proof is in the pudding once you have come up with a candidate selection of handguns from which to choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoy View Post
    I did buy an XD40, plain Jane version, 4 or 5 years ago at a gun show. I could resist the price at $419 new in the box. It is not at all a bad gun however just like any other gun, it has its pluses and minuses and, of course, there is the personal preference thing. I don't keep my XD40 in my carry stable but if that was what happened to be available to me, I would certainly have no compunctions against carrying it. I like the design, feel, and features of the Glock and the Smith and Wesson M&P series better, but there we go again with that personal preference thing.

    That is why it is always a good thing if you can rent different guns at a range of have friends who will go with you and let you try their guns out. The proof is in the pudding once you have come up with a candidate selection of handguns from which to choose.
    Absolutely agree 100%.
    Mostly I will pocket carry, and like you said it has the plus and minuses.
    Been carrying 1911 until it gets a little warmer. if I carry the 1911 I still pocket carry the other gun.
    The pocket is just very convienant. Get up in the morning throw on a pair of sweat pants, grab the pocket gun, make a cup of coffee. Run out to the mail box to get the morning paper, i'm pocket carrying.Somebody knocks on the door, I'm pocket carrying. My pocket carry is a ten round 40 cal,lol it'll do the job. I can list a bunch of negatives, but we already know the negatives , sorry for getting caught up on the pocket

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    They are both quality, reliable handguns, ..... BUT-----

    The only safety on a Glock that interfaces with the user is the trigger, what could possibly go wrong there?

    Or with the Glock, you have the guessing game, "is there a round in the chamber"? Sure you can look at the extractor, if you have time and light, you can tell. XD you can tell in the dark, quickly by feel, what is not to like about that?

    Striker cocked, also easily determined by feel or sight. On the Glock, yea, back to putting your finger on the only safety.

    And a grip safety that Glock doesn't offer. My dog can accidentally fire a Glock, just hook the trigger with a claw. Can't happen with an XD. (and yes, dogs have shot their owner)

    And before the Glock fan's dogpile this, yes, I know there is the striker block and the drop safety, in addition to the trigger. XD's also have striker block and drop safety.

    Natural point, look a spot on the wall, close your eyes, point an XD and a Glock (unloaded) at that point, then open you eyes. Bet you will be a lot closer to the spot with an XD.

    But if it doesn't feel good the first time you pick it up, why pick it up again? Glocks just don't have the natural feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XD40inAVL View Post
    They are both quality, reliable handguns, ..... BUT-----

    The only safety on a Glock that interfaces with the user is the trigger, what could possibly go wrong there?

    Or with the Glock, you have the guessing game, "is there a round in the chamber"? Sure you can look at the extractor, if you have time and light, you can tell. XD you can tell in the dark, quickly by feel, what is not to like about that?

    Striker cocked, also easily determined by feel or sight. On the Glock, yea, back to putting your finger on the only safety.

    And a grip safety that Glock doesn't offer. My dog can accidentally fire a Glock, just hook the trigger with a claw. Can't happen with an XD. (and yes, dogs have shot their owner)

    And before the Glock fan's dogpile this, yes, I know there is the striker block and the drop safety, in addition to the trigger. XD's also have striker block and drop safety.

    Natural point, look a spot on the wall, close your eyes, point an XD and a Glock (unloaded) at that point, then open you eyes. Bet you will be a lot closer to the spot with an XD.

    But if it doesn't feel good the first time you pick it up, why pick it up again? Glocks just don't have the natural feel.
    "Or with the Glock, you have the guessing game, "is there a round in the chamber"? Sure you can look at the extractor, if you have time and light, you can tell. XD you can tell in the dark, quickly by feel, what is not to like about that?"

    This is incorrect. The Glock loaded chamber indicator is both visually and tacitly effective in determining whether or not a round is in the chamber. And example of what you are referring to would be the LCI on M&P's. Those are only visual in good light.


    "Striker cocked, also easily determined by feel or sight. On the Glock, yea, back to putting your finger on the only safety."

    On a Glock, this is determined by the position of the trigger which makes it visible. You CAN check this in the dark by feel, however I would never recommend this unless extreme conditions exist. But not to worry. If the LCI indicates that the chamber is loaded, then the striker is also in its half cocked position ready to fire by default.


    "And a grip safety that Glock doesn't offer. My dog can accidentally fire a Glock, just hook the trigger with a claw. Can't happen with an XD. (and yes, dogs have shot their owner)"

    Yes this can happen but since I don't own a dog, I don't have a problem here. That and the fact that any loaded guns I have hidden in my home are always in a holster which covers the trigger guard.


    "Natural point, look a spot on the wall, close your eyes, point an XD and a Glock (unloaded) at that point, then open you eyes. Bet you will be a lot closer to the spot with an XD."


    I have actually done this with these two guns and the Glock works better for me in this test. I would expect this to be so since this is largely a factor of personal preference and training. I know I could spend the time training with the XD and successfully do as you commented here. But then in comes that personal preference thing which gets in the way of wanting to train with a given handgun.


    "But if it doesn't feel good the first time you pick it up, why pick it up again? Glocks just don't have the natural feel."

    Major personal preference thing here. What works for the goose ain't exactly a sure thing to work for the gander. A glock has a more natural and better feel for me then does my XD40, but that just me. Other's mileage may vary.


    I have both said and written many times in a number of gun websites that the Springfield Amory XD series is a fine one to consider for a SD sidearm. I put it along side of the Glock and the M&P series as premier options for those looking to buy a quality mid-priced sidearm for their defensive uses. There are others for certain but in the DAO high capacity polymer framed field, these three designs are probably at the head of the pack. It really comes done to personal preference (yeah, I know... I've already said that) and what works best for the individual.

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    It's a personal choice I own 8 Glocks and one XDM and I like the Springfield better because it shoots more accurately for me.

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