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    Why a glock is better then other guns

    Is there anything else to say? Let me know how you guys feel about glocks.

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    Very simple manual of arms, easy to care for and clean, most models are very accurate and will feed and shoot any ammo.
    Just my opinions.

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    So many people talk about how ugly the glock is. Since when did guns have anything to do with fashion statements. It's a tool! You don't buy a power drill because it looks nice. Reliability and quality over anything!

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    It's a brick, that feels like a brick with little to no ergonomics in comparison to other polymer pistol that has since the Glock's first appearance, given raise to a number of polymer pistols that doesn't feel like a BRICK!

    Remember you ask.

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    I have two. The deciding factor for me was that it was a proven weapon (proven over many years and in lots of police departments).

    There were other weapons that offered slight improvements over the Glock (thinner, lighter, smaller, more capacity, etc). But none of these improvements were substantial enough to dethrone the Glock.

    On the down side, I think Glock should offer more single stack guns. I think a thinned single stack 9mm would sell well in the G26 sized weapon.

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    If anyone is curious go to the glock Wikipedia page and read the requirements the fire arm had to go through to be chosen. Quite rigorous. And as far as it being a brick? Maybe it's because I'm a bigger guy but most other guns are to small. I love everything about it. And your right about a skinnier 9mm. It can be annoying concealing a glock. But after all it was designed for the Austrian army not civilians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Map9690 View Post
    So many people talk about how ugly the glock is. Since when did guns have anything to do with fashion statements. It's a tool! You don't buy a power drill because it looks nice. Reliability and quality over anything!
    What if two power drills have the same reliability, quality and price? What's your next criteria? Do you purposely choose the ugly one, with the thought that it will get dinged up anyway? In my opinion, a dinged up ugly gun is still worse than a dinged up pretty gun.

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    No my next criteria is consumer reviews. Then price, then warranty options. And if the drills are really the same in every way, then those 2 companies are doing a crappy job on marketing and giving competitive pricing.

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    Tie six or more together, and they make great boat anchors......

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    glock has awesome marketing!

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    Glock has a solid reputation and is reliable, however; ergonomics and trigger suck for some of us, so it is not for everyone though its supporters seem to think so, but the SIG P226 went through some rigorous tests from the US military and passed, along with Beretta. Admittedly Glock was not allowed to participate because it is a foreign manufactured gun. All that aside it is great we have so many choices and a preference for the Glocks is a subjective one......JJ

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    You do know beretta is Italian and sig is Swiss right?And glock did have a chance to compete but the guidelines didn't give them enough time. But now marshals and FBI carry them.

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    The contract stated that the military firearms be made in USA...both Sig and Beretta had factories here ready and able to produce them as did the others who competed. After the trials Beretta has been making them here. Glock did not meet the specifications to begin with and did not have a factory here at the time.......JJ

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    The handgun was adopted into service with the Austrian military and police forces in 1982 as the P80 (Pistole 80),[14] with an initial order for 25,000 guns.[10] The Glock 17 outperformed 8 different pistols from five other established manufacturers (Heckler & Koch offered their P7M8, P7M13 and P9S, SIG-Sauer of Switzerland bid with their P220 and P226 models, Beretta of Italy submitted their model 92SB-F, FN Herstal proposed an updated variant of the Browning Hi-Power and the home-grown Steyr entered the competition with the GB).[15]
    The results of the Austrian trials sparked a wave of interest in Western Europe and overseas, particularly in the United States, where a similar effort to select a service-wide replacement for the M1911 had been ongoing since the late 1970s (known as the Joint Service Small Arms Program). In late 1983, the United States Department of Defense inquired about the Glock pistol and received four samples of the Glock 17 for unofficial evaluation.[16] Glock was then invited to participate in the XM9 Personal Defense Pistol Trials, but declined because the DOD specifications would require extensive retooling of production equipment and providing 35 test samples in an unrealistic time frame.[16]
    Shortly thereafter, the Glock 17 was accepted into service with the Norwegian, and Swedish Armed Forces, surpassing all prior NATO durability standards.[16] As a result, the Glock 17 became a standard NATO-classified sidearm and was granted a NATO Stock Number (1005-25-133-6775).[16]
    By 1992, some 350,000 pistols had been sold in more than 45 countries, including 250,000 in the United States alone.[14]

    Glock turned the USA down. Not the other way. And sig didn't have a plant till 85

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    Who cares.....I didn't even know Norway had a military.....do both of the guys and their german shhepard all have one? They couldn't make 35 guns to be tested in the same amount of time all the other companies could ....Hmmmmmm. That just seems unfair. I own a glock amongst other handguns. I am just not a big internet copy paster though, I rely on me to form my opinion.

    There are other guns out there and there even other guns with NATO stock numbers on them. What the heck does that number mean anyway? I am not a bit impressed by that and i own a gun with a NATO syock number on it and advertised as a big deal by the company. It's a great weapon but the NATO # I think it's hype, or not I am not sure.

    Glocks are reliable and a lot of places use them. As has been stated,their marketing dept is clever! They give such a good deal to certian entites it would be hard for them to pass on them. Then they advertise "used by the Icelandic Armed Forces" and get people in the public to buy into it and pass it on. I have a few buddies that shoot Glocks and even compete with them. They shoot good and do very well. I personally will not use one in competition nor do I normally use mine at all. Its nice but it is nothing special nor is it superior to most other brands in any criteria I place importance on.

    Now they have a way better mag spring then those Italian guns don't get me wrong........................its a joke, mellow out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Map9690 View Post
    Is there anything else to say? Let me know how you guys feel about glocks.
    While I don't own a Glock, just Rugers at the moment, rather then get in to the Ford versus Chevy thing, let's just agree that we're darn fortunate to have so many extremely fine choices from a worldwide pool of manufactures. We each have our preferences. Preferences aren't right or wrong, good or bad. They're just preferences. Heck, there's a whole slew of guns from a whole slew of manufactures that I'd love to own and play with, Glock included. I'll probably own one some day.

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    I'm mellow I was however in debate club 0_o. Nerdy I know. But I like when someone comments to back up a statement. Arguing opinion is one of the great freedoms we have. I just wanted to explain the facts I had to formulate opinion. And I guess copying and pasting was a problem?

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    Who cares.....I didn't even know Norway had a military.....do both of the guys and their german shhepard all have one?

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    I don't understand.
    Map9690, do you own a Glock? Do you need reassurance from us, that you made the right choice? Is that what this thread is about?

    If that is indeed what you're after, please allow me to reassure you: If you like your Glock, then you made the right choice.
    Glocks don't feel good in my hands; but if your Glock feels good in your hands, it was the right choice.
    Glock magazines stick in the gun if they're not completely empty, which I don't like; but if you don't mind pulling magazines out, you made the right choice.
    Glocks come with fragile plastic sights, which rip off if I try to rack the slide on my belt. I don't like that; but if you never slide-rack one-handed, you made the right choice.

    Feel better now?


    (Sorry: Couldn't help it. The Devil made me write that.)

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    Sure Steve I feel much better. In fact it's the happiest ive ever been. Anymore motivational speeches?
    ( looks like the devil got to me too)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Map9690 View Post
    Is there anything else to say? Let me know how you guys feel about glocks.
    You asked......

    If you gave me one I'd sell it.I shot one in 1988 and thought it sucked,and think less of the company itself after hearing about their arrogant attitude and tactics.I shot one a few years later and it didn't change my mind any.

    As Steve said,the ergos suck,the sights suck,and I think the swelling mags is a touch dumb.What I find really dumb is where they put the safety,even an inbred retart would question the logic of putting the safety in the damn trigger itself.What that tells me is the gun was designed for idiots that aren't bright enough to operate a normal safety or stay off the mag release-my God,is opperating a rifle way over their head?

    I've never heard of Colt or HK leg either.Seems Glock wins the prize for idiots booting one in their leg, or their hand field stripping it-anothe bright freakin' idea there!

    I never verified it but I heard reports in the early years some departments got a spiel about Glock' innovative polymer frame and polygonal bore-beep,wrong answer considering HK beat them by a decade.Like I said,I don't know for sure but considering some lawsuit threats for I've run across it wouldn't shock me.

    I don't like them obviously but for the money they are a decent gun,the "Church of Glock" I just don't get.I think the intended design of KISS makes them dangerous and counterproductive to the goal,You don't hand someone unproficient in handling arms a gun with a fairly light trigger and for all intensive purposes has no safety.Brilliant.

    I will only own one polymer gun,HK.The USP is a much stronger and better gun to me,and failures are slim compared to Glocks.

    Just my opinion but you asked.If you like the gun,great,you need to have confidence in your gun,I just have no use for them.

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    I've shot 7000 rounds no problem out my 34. It's not a confidence issue. Just curious

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    I really like my Glock 26. I like the grip, trigger, and don't mind the looks. I have never noticed any issues with the magazine release, in that, it works just like all my other autos. The gun is durable, reliable, and easy to shoot accurately. It's also a fun gun to shoot at the range. I also have other pistols that I like just as much such as Colt, Smith & W, Ruger, and Beretta. I'm not one of those guys who claims that Glock is the best, but I'm also not a Glock hater. I don't really understand the extremes this gun brings out in people. Love and hate. To me it's just another really good gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Map9690 View Post
    I've shot 7000 rounds no problem out my 34. It's not a confidence issue. Just curious
    I understand.7K isn't much though really,proves the gun and ammo are reliable,but .........

    I think if the USP were in the trials the price is the only thing that would be the killer,the P7 and P9S are more of a law enforcement piece than a combat sidearm so they were pretty screwed on that one.

    2 point among otherswhy I like the USP:

    The USP is basically a scaled down MK23,the MK23 lived through 6K proof rounds and 30K +Ps in initial testing,among other things.The USP won't quite handle that of course,but it will take a serious beating in the fullsize 45 or the 45 Tactical due to the unique recoil system.The compacts and smaller calibers have a different recoil system,but they take a beating too.I have yet to hear of a USP that was shot to death.

    Recently Federal Cartrige sent an older USP 45 to HK for a checkup.The armorers said you could tell the gun was seriously used,and it appeared the only thing ever done was recoil spring changes.After going through it they resprung it and I think updated the old firing pin block to the new style.Out of curiosity they called Federal to see if they had a round count,it was looked up and was just shy of 300K rounds.There was mention of proof rounds but I'm not sure on those.

    Alot of people complain at the price,but put more than that into a 1911 that eats recoil springs at least 5 times quicker,and depending who made it,may break down.Since I love 1911s,the quality of HK justifies the price to me whether it's plastic or not.

    Anyway,enjoy it,as long as you like it nothing else matters.

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